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JohnD
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 Posted - 02/03/2009 : 10:43:10
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/03/2009 : 12:29:22
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Originally posted by winnieboo
I think that in order to get well, you have to believe that you can. It's that simple. You have to make a decision that you will do it. You have to salvage some hope somewhere in your crying heart. Summon your faith, summon that last shred of inner strength, whatever you have to do to find the hope and take it from there. You will get better.
Winnie, I hope you don't mind me repeating that in big letters.
I would highly recommend to anyone who is still struggling that they print that off and stick it up on the wall in a place where they will see it.
When I was in the struggling stages I put up a sign on the wall saying something like: "Believe in the healing process" because I knew that was vitally important to me getting better.
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
879 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2009 : 12:50:31
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Richard,
Your psychotherapist doesn't have to be "TMS-trained" (although ideally she should be analytically-trained). I think the main thing, if she's open to the TMS concept, is that she reads "The Mindbody Prescription" (there's a section in the appendix directed to psychologists, but she'd need to read the whole book) and maybe "The Divided Mind".
There are others on this forum who have got better using psychotherapists who weren't TMS-trained.
(Edit:) See this thread: http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5204
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Capn Spanky
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2009 : 12:58:06
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Lately I've been wondering if there is a bit too much emphasis on psychoanalysis and even journaling. Sarno says only 5% of his patients require psychotherapy... and (correct me if I'm wrong here) he doesn't even mention journaling until his third book.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, I believe both are important. But I feel like I've really turned a corner lately, in particular with my chronic elbow pain. And I think it's because of things like winnieboo's quote above, and some of the things that Monte, Marsha, and others have said here in this thread have finally sunk into me.
Stopping all treatment (pain meds, etc.) and resuming full physical activity has been huge too. |
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skizzik
USA
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Posted - 02/03/2009 : 14:20:10
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Originally posted by winnieboo
And Skiz,
I'm not ready to post a success story. I'm very much improved and enthused about the progress, but the road has been complicated. When the time comes and I can pass along something helpful and concise, I will..
wrong answer   i warned you!   you made me do this   getting tired  ok, I'm done...phew...ok, a forced story won't flow right anyway... |
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forestfortrees
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Posted - 02/03/2009 : 17:53:35
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getting tired
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westcoastram
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Posted - 02/03/2009 : 23:19:40
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Hello all,
I've been away from the forum for a while but I check in and thought that I would chime in here on therapists.
Many good points have been made:
- Having a therapist work with you (if they're competent) can help you see your blind spots and allow you to go deeper into issues causing TMS and discover issues you may not know.
- Monte has many good points, even if past trauma is worked with, work needs to be done in the present: often we miss just how pervasive our schemas (formed in the past) cause us TMS pain in the present. And mindfulness practices can extremely helpful here.
- Fear is a huge factor. Another thing a good therapist can help you with is expanding your life back to pre-TMS (or, in many cases, further) levels. Fear goes beyond just "fear of pain or TMS," (although that is very important), fear of life is an issue too.
-Acceptance and Surrender. There is much merit to this. Acceptance is not easy, it is hard. Surrender is counter-intuitive. But, when we can do this, (and good therapists can help) we can affect great change in our lives and it can eliminate all types of pain and suffering (emotional and TMS).
- There is no silver bullet. We are all different and therefore all these issues interact differently in our lives and our psyches. A good therapist will help you discover what works for you.
WCR
PS. Another thing of note: all these topics are dynamic, no one issue can be summed up in a few sentences or even a TMS thread. If there ever was a reason to recommend a good therapist (TMS or otherwise) it is because they can help you explore all these topics fully and with an eye towards health.
Jill Solomon and Arnold Bloch in LA are very good. |
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Capn Spanky
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 07:40:00
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Originally posted by winnieboo
I think that in order to get well, you have to believe that you can. It's that simple. You have to make a decision that you will do it. You have to salvage some hope somewhere in your crying heart. Summon your faith, summon that last shred of inner strength, whatever you have to do to find the hope and take it from there. You will get better.
I might even take this a step further. In order to get well, you must truly believe you ARE well. |
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winnieboo
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 15:44:33
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Hi all,
Hilary, I'm flattered that you pulled up my quote...I know we all feel like if we can help someone else, then we're having a good day (or at least it improves whatever kind of day we're having)!!
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Cee
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 16:25:14
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I did see a pain Psychologist a few times for the neuropathy in both my feet, He was recommened by a TMS Doctor in the Boston area. It did help....but to be honest it is 1 1/2 years later and the neuropathy is back.
I have seen a pyschologist (not TMS) and it really didn't help all that much except she did a proceedure on me called EFT (I think) and it helped some. I listened to a beeping noise through head phones while the Pyschologist had me relive events that led up to my pain.
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richardadams39
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 04:49:51
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Whilst I really appreciate all your kind words of advice and support, I think it is increasing the anxiety for me knowing that certain people have tried things that didn't work, others that did etc. My knowledge of TMS seems to be making the pain worse and I think I need to focus on my work with my psychotherapist first before jumping to any other conclusions.
To be honest, I think I'm gonna stop looking at this thread, and maybe the forum as a whole. |
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winnieboo
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 05:52:05
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Hi Richard,
Good luck! I know exactly what you mean. I left the Forum for a couple of months and now that I'm back, so are some of my aches and pains. I am still very suggestible. I think you are wise to focus exclusively on your own work. Take care and all the best.--wb |
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Still no improvement, psychotherapy?
