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cfhunter
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 Posted - 01/09/2009 : 18:51:09
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| Has ANYone suffered from repeatedly suffering injuries from just plain old exercise??! |
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hsb
149 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2009 : 08:07:53
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I have been a runner for over 20 years. I have had just about every running"injury" on the planet. Every single one of them did not heal in the "usual" healing time. tendonitis-most people 6-8 weeks, me 4+ months or longer. EVERY TIME. i never understood why i kept getting injured - i run less than my friends, i am strong, i am not fragile, but i would get a "running injury", try ever treatment, every doctor and still be out for months and months. i would eventually get better, start running again and within 3-4 months i was injured again in a different body part, or the same one. Usually i could attribute it to something i did in training - ran hills hard, increased the distance, did speedwork. this way i could blame the running on the pain ... something i did in training caused it. all of my friends would heal up quickly and be back on the roads, but not me.
so yes, that's my story. right now i was able to battle a bout of achilles pain and managed to have it hurt for a week or 2 and that was it.
i believe that all of my running injuries are TMS -= i am strong, i am fit but i have the TMS tendencies. i believe it's all a matter of mindset. believing that when i get a pain, it is not going to be 4 months w/o running, thinking other things, thinking better thoughts, etc.
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swmr1
USA
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 08:14:07
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Hi cfhunter. Yes. I have been an avid athlete (and exercise junkie) since I finished competitively swimming in college. When I had my second child and entered my mid-30's I started having injuries I'd never encountered before. I realize now that they were related to the stress of having children. And most of my problems with injury have been compounded by the fear that I would no longer be able to work out like I want to. The fear of losing one of my favorite activities made me obsess about any little twinge. Once I read Sarno and started to understand that I didn't need to be afraid and that my body isn't some fragile thing that can't heal itself, that helped a lot.
I've had piriformis, shoulder, knee and foot problems (some were chronic and were sidelining me from sports I love). I have gone back to all activities I want to do. I have twinges and minor injuries here and there but they heal and I get back to what I love. I think this whole experience has helped me let go of my obsessiveness with exercise a bit also. I now can actually take a week off if I need to without going absolutely nuts. I see that as a healthy thing.
Best of luck! |
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altherunner
Canada
511 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2009 : 21:02:26
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I had pretty much every running injury there is, and they all lingered. I had to stop running for 7 months due to back pain,
when I read Dr. Sarno. The back pain went, and so did the so-called
running injuries. |
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Bobbypols
Canada
46 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2009 : 12:37:20
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I lift weights, and do aerobic activity. Some activities no longer cause pain while others do, and they seem to flop whenever my body wants it to.
But in the end, I realize a lot of the pain is conditioned with movements and I go through it, or at least visualize myself doing them with 0 pain. In which case i have made big strides, and will continue over time. |
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Sam908
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 20:14:29
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| If you can find them, read some of Dr. Peter Steincrohn's old books. To give you an idea of where he's coming from, one of them is entitled, "How to Cure your Joggermania." |
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forestfortrees
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 21:47:40
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Definitely. For me it was my knee. The pain levels weren't huge, but I definitely got into the whole pain-anxiety cycle. Now that I've found Sarno, I'm thrilled to be able to get back to some of the old activities that I loved.
I'm pretty nervous about starting to run again, though. I'm worried about my problems with my knee coming back and then going back to my old life. Can anyone relate any success stories of being able to run again after discovering Sarno, running through some TMS pain, and having it all work out well?
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cfhunter
119 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2009 : 20:09:08
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Thank you everyone...I definitely feel like I have something TMS'y going on in my foot. I KNOW for a fact the knee stuff and back pain has been TMS and I ran through some excruciating stuff (with NO long term problems) but this is different. I am going for a bone scan monday to rule out fractures then discuss alternative diagnosis...if the ortho says "not sure OR tendonitist OR ligament strain" I am going to give it some time and then ONWARD and back to it.
My husband is training for Ironman Louisville KY and started suffering panic attacks after a triathlon he did where the conditions were a bit challenging...I think it is perfectionism tendencies at their best taking over when he is in the throes of it...
Funny hsb you sound JUST like me.....I have sworn off running 3 times in the past from injuries and fear only to come back and run farther, faster and with more confidence then before. I am 38 years old, healthier than anyone I know (cholesterol, heart stress tests, blood pressure, diet, body fat 16%) and yet...I get hurt more and take longer to heal than anyone I know! It's crazy!
I appreciate everyones input...exercise is very important to me and it helps to know there are others out there with the same type of stuff going on...
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MHI
Canada
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Posted - 01/19/2009 : 07:12:46
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| The funny thing is about this subject is that before I discovered Sarno, I went to a Kinesiologist and after assessing me and telling that I had no gait problems or significant weekness, he told me something profound that led me to Sarno for the first time. This is a hard science guy too. He said that after have an "injury" that lasted this long, "I had to convince my brain and muscles that it was alright to challenge them and use them". Despite the fact that this guy was a hard science person, he strongly believed in the connection between the brain and the body. When I finally believed it was ok to run, I started slowly and what I found (at this particular time) was that each run made me feel better. There was pain but not any worse and lessened over time. This gave me confidence to do other things as back to normal. It has only been job changes that have led to symptoms again. |
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hottm8oh
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 10:13:51
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I do low/no impact exercising, and I have never been injured, but I am terrified of running. The last time I ran, my knees, ankles, and hips were jacked up for weeks, so I shy away from anything high impact.
I have experienced pain while exercising, but I tell myself it's nothing and the pain usually goes away, but again this during is a very low impact routine. |
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Bobbypols
Canada
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Posted - 01/19/2009 : 13:10:03
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| hottm8oh, start running again. Do this. Run everyday, but run 1 minute at a time. So the first day run for one minute. Next day run for 2 minutes, next day run for 3 minutes. Take a day off. Then start at 3 minutes again. This gradual build up will prove that it is tms. |
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hsb
149 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2009 : 18:55:29
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I am in the midst of an achilles "thing". i am really trying hard not to panic. I am training for a marathon which is HUGE for me because of my TMS. i have only made it to the starting line of 2 marathons because of the myriad of "running injuries" i developed along the way. and believe me i have tried so many times to get to the start and make it through the training but only made it twice. i am trying to tell myself that this pain is just my mind trying to block me again from training; my mind saying that "see you can't run a marathon because of the pain in your ____________ (fill in the blank); you don't deserve to run a marathon so i am going to through more road blocks at you".
so...... i am continuing to run and trying the positive affirmations that it is my mind and that it ain't going to win. what makes it difficult as usual is the "real v. tms" and that it sucks to run in pain.
need some encouragement. thanks |
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Bobbypols
Canada
46 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 04:28:21
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The most important thing is the act of doing. The fact that your trying to run is in itself the most important thing, not whether or not you finish. The idea of finishing etc, will only put more pressure and tension in your life.
Dont be intimidated by the pain. Have you got it checked out, and ruled out any major health reasons, once thats done, give it hell.
Remember, its the act of doing that is more important than the results. I used to lift weights, and was always the biggest in the gym (lifting 300lbs bench press, and 500lbs squats when i was 19), and now im just happy to be in the gym and not at home intimidated by the pain. Do I still have pain, yes, but im not intimidated by it. |
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hsb
149 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 06:03:44
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Yes I am putting pressure on myself to try to get to the starting line of this marathon. I have been doing pretty well - my achilles bothered me about a month ago and i ignored it and it went away but now it's back with a vengeance. I want so much to run this marathon - I have to think my mind is putting up constant road blocks like it always does - 30 years of running and i have had EVERY running "injury" imaginable. It makes so much sense to me that my mind would do this - it's another way for me to believe i am not as good as everyone else who can run a marathon. i am going to give it a try tomorrow to run. biggest obstacle for me is to get my mind off of how i am ruining my chances of running the marathon by not treating it, not stopping, etc. etc. if i can get past that, i think i will be okay.
thanks all. |
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Bobbypols
Canada
46 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 09:19:02
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The truth is that by you deciding to run tomorrow and showing up, you have already won. Think of it like that and the tension will melt away, and with it your pain.
Let us know how it goes. |
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tmsBgone
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2009 : 19:35:00
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Originally posted by cfhunter
Has ANYone suffered from repeatedly suffering injuries from just plain old exercise??!
I am a marathon runner and I have never experienced any type of running related pain or injuries. True. None. But - I have had a real challenge with TMS related symptoms: calf, ankle, foot and hip pain. I knew the pain was TMS related because they would come and go at will. During one particular run when the pain in my left calf and ankle was so intense I was in tears, I stopped to help a bicycle rider with a broken chain and in doing so sliced off the top of my index finger. Instantly the calf and ankle pain disappeared! My brain was now completely focused on my throbbing finger. Amazing! I continued on with my run (of course) wrapping my finger in my glove and ran along with NO calf or ankle pain!
The same sort of thing happened when I ran the Disney Marathon a few weeks ago. I was so anxious about running a PB and put so much pressure on myself and along with being the classic "goodest" had a lot of TMS 2 weeks prior to race date. Wouldn't you know, the minute the starting gun went off the pain vanished!
It's all my head. Really.
I hope this helps.
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cfhunter
119 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2009 : 19:50:56
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Well I am glad I got the bone scan...I have a cuneform fracture. Funny thing is...it NEVER hurts. I even walked today twice with NO pain. BUT the neuroma I have had for 3 years is FIRED up and ready to give me hell! So...I can't run for at least 6 more weeks....but now the other foot is driving me nuts.
This is just crazy and I miss running!!!
Mu husband is training for the ironman 09 in Kentucky and he hasa new ailment EVERY time he has a big effort to complete...amazing how this works.
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