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Tunza
New Zealand
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 Posted - 12/20/2004 : 00:14:05
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Hi,
After gaining heaps of confidence from using TMS thinking to rid stop two recent back "episodes" I have restarted eased back into running. It's more like jogging pace really and for only up to 20 mins and no more often than every second or third day.
The knee pain that stopped me running two years is back trying to distract me, along with other leg pains (but these seem less consistent than the knee pain). I am much less afraid of it now though. I am rereading Sarno and have found Monte's book helpful.
I have always worn orthotics (told that I pronate) and I have taken these out since I realise they make me feel my body is not healthy.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Snoopy, would you mind elaborating on what you said about your knee recovery in one of your last posts?
Thanks in advance,
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 06:08:23
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Tunza,
Congratulations on returning to running, I've started doing some myself sporadicaly. I wouldn't necessarily stop wearing your orthotics, especially if they are the custom kind that cost a lot of money and they are comfortable. I got some of the good ones a few years back. They cost over $500 with the plaster molding process from a running foot doctor. Athletic shoe styles sometimes are discontinued in a year and you have to go out and start from scratch trying to find one that fits comfortably again before and after the break-in process.
I admit getting custom orthotics is probably mostly placebo, if the intent was to try to fix someting, when the cause was really TMS. But once you've got them, if their comfortable, I would use them. They are infinitely better than the garbage inserts that come with most shoes, that feel good at first, and then flatten out after a few uses. I would feel worse with the thought that I had wasted all that money on something totally useless and was now lying in the bottom of my closet.
At least the custom orthotic will give a consistent feeling from each new model shoe and your foot bones and muscles won't have to reshape to each new shoe. |
Edited by - tennis tom on 12/20/2004 06:11:33 |
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Snoopy
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 07:44:52
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Kat,
In terms of my "recovery", I already had a predisposition to believing Dr. Sarno. I always felt that Western medicine was woefully inadequate in certain areas (it is also amazing in others).
What Sarno said made immediate sense to me. My personality also dovetailed with the descriptions in the book. I then began exploring the possibility that repressed and unknown anger was the cause.
I am in my early 40's and thought my days of basketball were over - time to focus on golf. Once I changed the thought process, voila!
Hope this helps - in reflecting on your question probably the biggest asset I had was the belief going in that traditional Western medicine had ignored the mind to the detriemnt of the patient. |
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Tunza
New Zealand
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 13:52:29
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Thanks Tennis Tom and Snoopy,
I know I am on the right track since I've seen how dramatically my back episodes resolved when I thought psychologically and stopped being so scared during them.
The knee pain (and other pains I've had for a long time) are more stubborn. I have been told so many times by PTs etc that I "must do this exercise" or else! Or I mustn't move, stand, sit, run like that or I'll do damage that I feel brainwashed and it's taking a bit longer.
The last treatment program I had was Egoscue method with the only Egoscue teacher in New Zealand. I know a lot of people have had success with this method but I got worse and felt the teacher was someone who was fearful of pain herself and that made my fear worse. She had great success with getting rid of pain (as long as she did the exercises religiously) but had developed a verucca (sp?) that was so problematical she couldn't run even though the other pain had gone.
Now I must practice what I have preached to others and stop thinking chronologically (Marc Sopher's "Calendar Phenomenon") and keep thinking psychologically.
This forum is a great extension of journaling as it helps get rid of doubts so that in my journalling I just focus mostly on emotions and not specific pain.
Thanks again, Kat |
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Hestia
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 19:53:23
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Kat, I have had similar issues returning to running after not being able to for a year and a half. My main TMS problem was my feet. I had plantar fasciitis and tarsal tunnel. After wearing orthotics constantly for over a year, I totally stopped wearing mine a few months ago after I read HBP. I was also told that I pronate. They even put something on the outside of my right shoe to force me to walk properly. Getting rid of my orthotics was very freeing and my feet are doing really well.
I slowly returned to running - like you at a jog pace. When I was starting to make good progress my knee started hurting. I immediately went to my doctor to check it out then went to one session with a PT. Those gave me the confidence to start running on it again after only a few days. In the beginning I iced etc but stopped doing that because it focused too much on the knee and the pain. After about 2 weeks my knee pain went away. I feel little twinges but they are rare. I am still having issues with calf pain/shin splints. I run on that most days. It comes and goes and has switched legs. I know it is TMS but cannot seem to shake it. I do not let it stop me from doing what I want to do.
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Tunza
New Zealand
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Posted - 12/21/2004 : 02:23:06
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Thanks Hestia. It is such a massive thing, changing your whole belief system isn't it? Especially with the pains that are more stubborn.
I've had such dramatic success with back pain and when I get twinges now it is almost always to do with work stress. Today on a walk before work I suddenly found myself thinking about getting to work and bang! straight away my I felt the spasm start in my lower back. Since I saw the connection immediately it went away as quickly as it came on. My back doesn't scare me any more. The knee stuff is different. Different quality of pain, not so obviously attached to specific emotional events etc. But I have had success with hay fever being reduced too so I know that a variety of different things will respond to this "treatment".
Good luck with working on your TMS which by the sound of it is on the run big time.
Kat |
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Need encouragement re knee pain. Snoopy? Anyone?
