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LuvtoSew
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 Posted - 09/12/2008 : 14:48:12
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I've been seeing an cranial osteopath and tmj dentist for over a year now and just recently they incorporated PT for my neck. Seems the more they do the worst I get. Just got home from my third PT session and now feel worst than before starting PT.
I'm in a delima, I wear and upper denture and lower partial and the bite is so messed up now with the splint therapy they no longer fit and the dentist won't make me a new set till the osteopath tells him and thats is when I'm 100% symptom free- so I am thinking of having a denturist make me a new set, he is highly trained and comes recommended, of course they tell me if I have new dentures made now I'll get worst. Well I'm at the point I can't eat or really function so how much worst is that, also now I'm on valium and pain pills.
So theres the delimma. I'm just so tired of all the body treatments and bite adjustments and of it all. If I was improving it'd be different but I'm not.
I guess I'm looking for opinions, am I not getting better because of all the attention being put on this and them telling me how difficult it is to treat tmj, and them telling me how my head bones are out of place and my neck is out of alignment. I guess I'm at my wits end. |
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scottjmurray
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Posted - 09/13/2008 : 04:23:39
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maybe it's time to put the physical treatments aside. i had tmj for a while. i even had them pull my wisdom teeth out and file some of my teeth down to fix my bite. this was of course, speculation on their part. they didn't really know what they were doing. there's nothing wrong with my jaw. there never was.
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i'm not s#!t.
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 09/13/2008 : 10:58:54
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Originally posted by LuvtoSew
I've been seeing an cranial osteopath and tmj dentist for over a year now and just recently they incorporated PT for my neck. Seems the more they do the worst I get. Just got home from my third PT session and now feel worst than before starting PT.
To be blunt, I'm not sure why you are posting here. This is a TMS forum, and clearly, you have not committed at all to treating your symptoms as TMS.
There can be no debate on the primary steps required to embrace the TMS diagnosis:
1. Repudiate the structural diagnoses
2. Stop all physical treatments
You have done neither.
It seems that you may be finally reaching the point where you are ready to do this. If so, you must truly commit. That means stopping -- cold turkey -- the osteopath, TMJ dentist (never heard of such a thing), splint therapy ... all of these treatments contradict step #2 above.
You must also accept the fact that your head bones are not "out of place" and your neck is not "out of alignment." These are structural explanations and thus contradictory to step #1 above.
You must either commit to TMS treatment, or commit to physical treatments. You can't have it both ways. Either you believe TMS applies to you or you don't. If it is the former, then I suggest you re-read Dr. Sarno's book and follow his treatment suggestions, because you have not been doing that so far. |
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Wavy Soul
USA
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Posted - 09/13/2008 : 11:46:12
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I had TMJ at a level that made me suicidal with pain (it was after MAJOR dental surgery––16 teeth!). I started on the TMJ dentist path because I was so desperate. Splints, yada yada...
Thank God I let it all go, managed the pain as conservatively as I could, kept saying to myself and others that it was a very clever strategy of distraction that my underlying emotions were using and suddenly, one day, woke up with no pain, and none since.
good luck
xx
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
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skizzik
USA
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Posted - 09/13/2008 : 11:56:36
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Originally posted by Wavy Soul
Thank God I let it all go, managed the pain as conservatively as I could, kept saying to myself and others that it was a very clever strategy of distraction that my underlying emotions were using and suddenly, one day, woke up with no pain, and none since.
Thats what I'm talkin about!!! |
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2008 : 11:58:35
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hey wavy,
now that you have some hindsight, do you recall how long that took approximately?
When you say suddenly, no pain, was it more of a realization you had'nt been in pain for a while, or literally woke up w/ no pain? |
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Peg
USA
284 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 15:14:32
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Hi
I agree with all the other posters.
From my experience, I didn't become pain free until I ceased all physical treatments. The only approach that did the job, was the one outlined in Dr. Sarno's book, the psychological approach.
I didn't have dental issues, my TMS was upperback and neck pain (although at one time it was bad enough to affect my jaw muscles), but I tried almost every other physical treatment with no lasting relief, before finding Dr. Sarno's work. Maybe it was a good thing, because I was totally receptive to his approach. It was something I certainly hadn't tried. The improvement was gradual and was not without the symptom imperative, but I persisted and it has bben well worth the effort.
Good luck
Peg
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei |
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LuvtoSew
USA
327 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 11:08:33
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Thanks all for replying. I took the first steps.
I emailed my dentist and told him I want him to start on my new partials now as I can no longer wear these splints and I need to start chewing, after a year of him and the osteopath he should know where my bite is suppose to be. If he says no I'll go to the denturist.
When I go to PT today, I'm telling them this is my last visit, it seems they just make my neck worst. I hate people working on me and it just stresses me out going there. Also lets see 3 different therapist in 4 visits, and the last one has only been practicing for 6 weeks.
I just can't keep doing all these treatments that are tendng to make me worst than better.
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HellNY
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Posted - 09/17/2008 : 09:16:41
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Originally posted by skizzik
hey wavy,
now that you have some hindsight, do you recall how long that took approximately?
When you say suddenly, no pain, was it more of a realization you had'nt been in pain for a while, or literally woke up w/ no pain?
Skizzik -
You're doing it again.....
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2008 : 11:30:01
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Originally posted by HellNY
quote:
Originally posted by skizzik
hey wavy,
now that you have some hindsight, do you recall how long that took approximately?
When you say suddenly, no pain, was it more of a realization you had'nt been in pain for a while, or literally woke up w/ no pain?
Skizzik -
You're doing it again.....
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Quitting all treatment
