TMSHelp Forum
TMSHelp Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ | Resources | Links | Policy
Username:
Password:

Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 TMSHelp
 TMSHelp General Forum
 Need to take a nap after 6-7 hours TMS?
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

celloLWF

USA
49 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2008 :  19:42:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am wondering, is it possible that my daily need to take a nap after being awake for 6-7 hours is actually a form of TMS?

I start yawning and feeling sick and dizzy, and often develop a migraine if I don't stop, lay down and rest for 10-30minutes every day. It is something that haunts me on a regular basis. I am afraid to do things in the afternoon or work jobs that are 9-5 because of the inevitable energy drop at about 2-3pm.

Just wondering if this is something that is normal for most people, or just something my body has developed to deal with emotions.

Thanks to you all...

ChrisSC

25 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2008 :  20:06:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This does sound like TMS to me. For a while (7 or 8 months) when I was at my worst I had chronic fatigue and with that I often felt the need to sleep despite getting what is considered a good night sleep. It is certainly not normal for most people to feel sick and dizzy after just 6-7 hours of being awake. The fact that you say it haunts you and is disrupting your life further seems to support it is serving as an unconscious-induced distraction. Also, it happens at the same time each day which doesn't seem consistent with a "non-TMS problem"; that is, it sounds more like a conditioned response than anything else.

My tiredness also followed a pattern. I'd usually feel so tired I couldn't keep my head up around 9:00 in the morning and about 5:00 at night. Eating "gave me energy" though the boost came before I could have even possibly have gotten energy from the food--I had associated the activity of eating with feeling better. This is probably what is happening to you around 2-3 pm... you are conditioned to expect feeling sick and dizzy at that time and so you do.

So based on the information you have given, I believe there's a pretty good chance this is what's going on.
Go to Top of Page

armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2008 :  21:38:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cello -- is there anything else that you've tried for this that works? Snack, water/liquids, caffeine? Shifting mealtimes?

Your form does sound a little severe and absolutely could be psychological, but an energy drop around 2-3 PM is not uncommon, and if you can get away with as little as 10 minutes rest, or if a potential workplace is flexible about the way you allocate your lunch hour and break times, then it shouldn't interfere with an office-type job (just not something you could do with shift work like cashiering). I can tell you that my work wouldn't care a bit if I elected to take a short lunch/eat at my desk and combine my technically-required 15-minute break and the rest of my lunch hour to take a nap. (Socially it's a bit weird, but that's a different issue.)

--
What were you expecting?
Go to Top of Page

Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2008 :  12:50:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by celloLWF

I am wondering, is it possible that my daily need to take a nap after being awake for 6-7 hours is actually a form of TMS?

I would say that the symptoms (sick, dizzy, migraine) are a conditioned response, and thus TMS.

However, the energy drop is totally normal. I would say that most people experience it. This is why in Europe, siestas are common. There is nothing wrong with taking a brief nap in the afternoon. However, allowing the tired feeling to progress to other physical symptoms may very well be part of TMS.
Go to Top of Page

celloLWF

USA
49 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2008 :  14:32:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the feedback.

I hope that my next job doesn't mind me getting 10 minutes of 'shuteye.' It's so short though it's more liking resting my mind and meditating or zoning out my life. I feel like a clean slate emotionally and mentally when I comeback.

I love Europe. I remember the work schedule the Italians follow...they had 2-3hours in the middle of the day to chill and have a meal. They also closed business much earlier than in the USA. They probably have less TMS symptoms.
Go to Top of Page

skizzik

USA
783 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2008 :  17:28:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hold on, it could be what you have for lunch.

Sounds more like insulin crashes. (Not diabetes)

I you notice it at the 6 hr mark daily, then this is what I think it is. I had chronic CFS and what you described does'nt sound like true TMS or CFS.

If what you eat for lunch is loaded w/ simple carbs you'll be drowsy as hell in 45 min to an hour once lunch is done.

I found before I suffered from crippling tms that eating a large fajita for lunch which had a simple carb tortilla of 75-100 grams of fast acting carbs would knock me out in the above time frame unless I was on a job that required some decent labor. If you have more than 40 grams of carbs at a sitting and you have a sedentary job you will get drowsy fast.

If your'e a construction worker your body will just burn it up.

It's all about how much the muscle and brain in your body needs the carbs to refuel, once they are topped off, insulin kicks in and drives out the carbs from the blood stream to the fat cells. It's the simple carbs that overdrive the insulin (as opposed to complex carbs that still contain the fiber) due to uber quick digestion that ends up removing all the carbs from the blood stream thus leaving one w/ a huge "what the hell is wrong with me" fatigue feeling.

Increasing complex carbs (carbs that havent had their fiber removed) cause the digestive process to take longer and provide a steady stream of fuel w/ no crashes.

Paradoxically, if you do intensive labor, or work out alot you will require faster carbs to remain unfatigued in addition to complex carbs.

ahhh, havent talked about bodybuilding nutrition in a long time, feels good

Edited by - skizzik on 09/12/2008 17:30:55
Go to Top of Page

Wavy Soul

USA
779 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2008 :  11:58:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, Skizzik, and I like that you are talking about that, because everything isn't TMS. TMS seems to me more about when something becomes a "problem." I've noticed the whole post-carb crash and eating more protein has been a huge change for me.

I'm just becoming clear about this for myself. There are certain physical things I do that I wouldn't even mention here, lest someone upbraid me as not being a true believer. But I have my own relationship with the physical world that generally works quite well.

Yet there is a fine line that I am becoming better at noticing, when things become "a problem" or not doing them becomes "a problem," at which point I am venturing into TMS zone.

Love is the answer, whatever the question
Go to Top of Page

skizzik

USA
783 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2008 :  12:00:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oops, thanx wavy, forgot to mention the addition of fat and protein will slow digestion, and help prevent the crash.
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
TMSHelp Forum © TMSHelp.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000