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andrews65
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 08/25/2008 : 16:18:05
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Has anyone tried his online program? Did you find it helpful?
thanks, Andrew. |
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Curiosity18
USA
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Posted - 08/25/2008 : 22:53:42
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Andrew-
Yes. I think it's the best structured program available for TMS. He's a very knowledgeable and compassionate physician, who will quickly respond to questions as you go through the program. One thing that's important though, is that if you decide to do the program you must be committed to putting in the time and work. That seems to be the general consensus among the current folks who are going through it.
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head2toe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/26/2008 : 10:24:12
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Curiosity
When you say time/work, how much time would you say is needed on a daily basis? Also, does Dr Schubiner answer questions via a forum or personally?
Thanks
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Curiosity18
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2008 : 22:08:45
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head2toe-
I would say an average of about an hour per day, plus a guided meditation of about 15 minutes. It's a four-week program, and I found that it's really important to carve out regular time through the duration. Dr. Schubiner responds to e-mails via the forum, and generally within 48 hours or so. If you're able to see him in person for a consultation (which is covered by most major insurance plans), he can also return phone calls, as well as respond to more specific individual questions/issues that arise.
Peace-
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LuvtoSew
USA
327 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2008 : 15:27:46
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| I am also thinking about taking his program. Am going to call him first. Anyone from mid michigan who has seen him? I would maybe make one trip for a consult but then do the online course if he thought I have tms. |
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vipassana
USA
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Posted - 09/09/2008 : 20:27:08
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Hi:
I live in Okemos by MSU and wennt to Southfield for an appointment with Dr. S. I wanted to be sure I was a candidate for his program as I had some kidney issues that showed up on an MRI which showed the usual buldging disc stuff that goes with TMS.
He was very professional, first taking a detailed history and then doing a physical exam. We agreed that I needed to get the kidney thing checked out before confirming a diagnosis of TMS. I went to UofM, had a renal CT scan (there is kidney cancer in my family) and was evaluated by a neurologist there.
What he suspected was actually true. The kidney cyst that was found was not relevant to the back issue and turned out to be nothing at all. I'll be getting renal CT scans yearly though as a precautionary measure as there is kidney cancer in the family.
Anyway, what I appreciated was that he didn't just assume that it was TMS before qualifying me for the program.
I have taken the program online instead of commuting to Southfield and have found it to be tremendously supportive. I like doing it online as I'm not rushed into completing everything in 4 weeks. In fact, I'm still in process and finding that I'm spending about 2 weeks on each week of the program to complete all the assignments thoroughly.
It has been a real help to me. I'm feeling so much better. Another thing I've been working with that has been supportive is the Egoscue method based on the book Pain Free. There is a personal trainer who I've consulted with and have found a great deal of symptom relief with that.
Hope that helps.
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Mely
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Posted - 09/10/2008 : 05:32:14
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How much does the online course cost (without the consultation as I live too far)?
What is the link to his website? |
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vipassana
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2008 : 18:52:28
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www . yourpainisreal . com
Course costs $250
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LuvtoSew
USA
327 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2008 : 07:41:47
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johnaccardi
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2008 : 15:38:02
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vipassana,
You say your in the middle of this program, are your symptoms leaving you? Do you think the program will take care of them completely? |
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Paul
134 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2008 : 12:15:51
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I'm thinking of doing this program as well.
But for $250, what does one really get? How is it better than reading all of Sarno's books and using the support forum here?
Just curious. |
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positivevibes
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Posted - 10/18/2008 : 13:02:52
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Interesting thread. I plan to go to LA to see Dr. S because I feel that I need a hands-on exam by someone who knows TMS. It's good to know that the online program is so good.
Vipassana, you mention Egoscue. I had gone to an Egoscue clinic in San Jose last year. Their "exercises" were rather helpful, although I didn't feel that they were curing my pain...their exercises helped to relieve my pain in many instances, but I felt that my body was in a "holding pattern."
The problem with Egoscue is that, like physical therapy, it assumes that your problem is physical. So I think you have to be careful about doing it while concurrently going through a TMS program, because isn't it a bit contradictory?
Even so, I've found that if my TMS symptoms are acting up, getting into the body positions and doing some of the gentle stretches that I learned with Egoscue usually helps a great deal and takes the pressure off of the areas of my back that usually hurt.
They gave me a "menu" of 4 exercises to do on an airplane, or if I've just been sitting for too long. They are extremely simple, but when I've been sitting for hours and my back feels achy, these 4 exercises totally make it feel great for several more hours.
Egoscue clinics aren't cheap, however. Last year I paid $1450 for a custom program of exercises (not covered by insurance). I used about half of my customized "menus" over about 5 months, and still have several visits remaining. The PT's there were very nice and helpful, but I don't think I'll be returning.
The bottom line was that I found Egoscue to be helpful, but it wasn't the cure for me, probably because my pain is mainly emotionally based.
For those of you not familiar with Egoscue, Peter Egoscue is the author of the book "Pain Free." He is a physical therapist in the San Diego area (where the first clinic opened -- there are several around the country and the world). His theories revolve around people's posture. He believes that you should carefully look at a person's posture and the way they walk, and then precribes various body positions and gentle exercises (very different from anything you'd done before...almost not exercises at all). Through a series of these exercises, your posture is supposed to improve and things are supposed to get re-aligned. The downside is....you need to do the "maintenance" exercises and body positions every day to remain pain-free.
I will admit that there seems to be some "magic" in some of the body positions and exercises, but for some reason I just wasn't getting much better. It helped, but in the end it wasn't "the thing that made me better." |
Edited by - positivevibes on 10/18/2008 13:13:22 |
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