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hambone

USA
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  09:54:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have tips on how to prevent TMS recurrence? Has anyone read or used the ideas in the book "They Can't Find Anything Wrong" by Clarke? I have beaten TMS in my back, metatarsals, shoulders and knees and am currently dealing with pain in shoulder, hamstring and foot tendon. I have been getting TMS pains for almost 30 years and even though I eventually defeat each occurence it does not prevent the next occurence somewhere else- the symptom imperative. I'm seeing a psychologist. Does anyone have tips on how to once and for all banish TMS? Many thanks. Steve


Edited by - hambone on 07/22/2008 08:22:53

marytabby

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2008 :  09:14:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Steve,
I read Clark's book and yes, I too have the symptom imperative thing all the time. I also would love to hear what others may offer on this. It's a tough one, because I also have success with one set of symptoms and then something else rears its ugly head.
Mary
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armchairlinguist

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2008 :  11:48:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm curious in both of your cases about two things -- actually four things, but two categories:

1) How do you react when you have TMS crop up in a new place? And does it start off severely or mildly?

2) How much psychological work have you done as compared to just the basic TMS work? Do you think you have more trauma/pressures/personality pressures than the average TMSer?

Not having had this experience, I can only venture to guess that it might be that either your reaction to the experience is what perpetuates it (i.e. every time you still worry), or that you have a very full emotional reservoir which has not been adequately emptied.

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What were you expecting?
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westcoastram

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Posted - 07/22/2008 :  11:51:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hambone,

There are a growing number of therapists and doctors trying to discern why some people continue to have reoccurrence of TMS or persistent symptom imperative issues.

One idea that has been posited seems to stray a bit from TMS dogma but seems promising to me (as I've seen it work with people who've plateaued): namely that for those people on the extreme end, they may have to do some deeper psychic and personality work whereby they learn not only their emotional repression but come to a greater acceptance of themselves.

I.E., they do have to change their personality a bit, become less perfectionistic, enhance their self-esteem but most importantly - accept all aspects of their personality - not just gain insight that they are angry or fearful but embrace the anger and fear and accept them as okay to have and experience.

Unfortunately there is no one roadmap to this experience of acceptance. More likely, each patient must meditate (not necessarily literally) on what acceptance means to them, what it looks like, how it feels and then inch themselves closer to that place.

Cognitively, we can at least begin to notice when we don't accept things by mentally labeling them as such: "I don't accept my crappy job" and in time one may begin to say "I accept my resentment over my crappy job, I accept my anger at my employer" and really mean and embrace the statement.

Hope this provides some grist for the mill,

WCR

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hambone

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2008 :  12:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sometimes the new TMS starts out with a band, like disabling hamstring pain that put me on crutches in great pain, or it can start out gently like tendon pain in foot. I generally fail to identify it as TMS immediately for some reason even though I know better. I've done a ton of psychological work, most useless I fear. Working on survivor guilt from Vietnam War and on not liking myself- the perfectionist, goodist, self beater upper. And the pains just keep coming. Thanks to everyone for the support and ideas. Steve

STEVEN T HAMBLIN
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