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donnroc
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 Posted - 06/20/2008 : 15:19:53
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| Any had experience with having a "Pian in the ass" and TMS ? |
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mk6283
USA
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 15:55:20
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Chronic pelvic/rectal pain can be TMS. Hemorrhoids are not. Good luck.
Best,
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donnroc
USA
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 19:03:32
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Thanks MK. You sound pretty confident with your response.
How do you know it's not for sure??
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mk6283
USA
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Posted - 06/21/2008 : 08:10:35
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I don't know anything "for sure." I don't know that anyone does. However, my impression/conviction at this time is that pain in the butt can definitely be due to TMS. Chronic pelvic pain, chronic nonbacterial prostatitis, coccydynia, pyriformis syndrome, sciatica, maybe even IBS, etc. etc. can all sometimes cause a sensation of pain in that region. They are all TMS. As a matter of fact, one of the regions that Dr. Sarno tests for muscle tension/tenderness in all of his patients is in the buttock area.
Hemorrhoids, however, are not TMS. To my knowledge, they are not caused by stress, anxiety, tension, or repressed emotions. Instead, the pain of hemorrhoids are due to actual swelling/inflammation of veins in the anorectal region. Hemorrhoids can even cause rectal bleeding, which is NEVER consistent with TMS. Although usually benign (the result of increased straining from constipation, etc.), hemorrhoids can rarely be caused by a more worrisome problem like liver disease.
I suppose that someone with IBS (=TMS equivalent) who strains a lot from constipation could feasibly develop hemorrhoids more frequently than the normal person, but this is a bit far-fetched and the hemorrhoids in it of themselves are still not TMS. Most hemorrhoids will get better in a few days on their own, so just drink a lot of fluids and try not to worry about it. If it lingers, you should probably consider seeing your doctor. Good luck.
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 06/21/2008 : 09:28:45
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Originally posted by mk6283
Hemorrhoids, however, are not TMS. To my knowledge, they are not caused by stress, anxiety, tension, or repressed emotions...I suppose that someone with IBS (=TMS equivalent) who strains a lot from constipation could feasibly develop hemorrhoids more frequently than the normal person, but this is a bit far-fetched and the hemorrhoids in it of themselves are still not TMS.
Hermmorhoids are indeed caused by digestive problems (excessive constipation) and/or poor bathroom habits (straining, bad posture). However, since the former can clearly be TMS-related, it would seem reasonable that hemorrhoids may be a by-product of TMS, even though the symptom itself is clearly a real physical problem.
Though this is off-topic, I believe hemmorhoids are a product of civilization. Somewhere along the way, it was decided that privileged people should sit to poop rather than squat. This is simply not the way our bodies were designed to function. I also believe this change in behavior is a cause of appendicitis, since that organ no longer provides the function it was designed for.
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la_kevin
USA
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Posted - 06/21/2008 : 13:23:54
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You said POOP. :)
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"Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans"- John Lennon |
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 06/21/2008 : 18:00:34
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| Hey donnroc, As a long time sufferer, I can assure you that stress makes them a whole lot worse. I,like Dave, think they begin with ibs. Everytime I have a flare up, I am usually in a wreck of some kind. I can just count on it , sometime to the point of bleeding. The best treatment for me is sitting in a tub of warm water. They seem to improve immediately. From everything I have read, stress is usually a factor and they generally get worse with age. Happy thought, huh? |
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donnroc
USA
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Posted - 06/21/2008 : 20:00:51
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Thank you all for your responses
I diffenitly see a correspondance
to my emotional state and the flare ups
Good job ya'll |
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LuvtoSew
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2008 : 10:08:22
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| Tucks help with the discomfort of hemorrhoids. Maybe try to incorporate more fiber in your diet also. |
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SarnoFan
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2009 : 23:14:54
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My experience is that hemorrhoids can be a by-product of stress and can be associated with other conditions (colitis/IBS/levator ani syndrome, anal fissures, etc.) or not.
I got my first hemmhorhoids after having an anal fissure which was after having a painful bowel movement which was after being under incredible stress when a friend that almost died which was just after I had pelvic surgery. (all these happened for the first time in my life within a 2 month period!). Therefore, hemmorhoids are stress induced. In MY case. They continue to flare up when I'm under stress. I never had issues with "butt" problems before this sequence of events.
Therefore, although it is a physical problem now, it started from emotional stress. My diet and bowel habits have always been good so I know it had NOTHING to do with that, in MY case.
You can also read my other posts for a history of my TMS journey and butt pain. How embarassing! |
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/25/2009 : 05:56:47
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When I was in my thirties (or late twenties?) I was told that 2 family members had had haemorrhoids at a relatively early age and had to have an operation. I was told to watch out for symptoms because perhaps it "ran in the family" (I'm sure you'll tell me no such thing, mk and DrZ!)
So guess what? A few months later I started getting symptoms! The doctor confirmed the diagnosis. I kept symptoms reasonably under control for many years through diet. (Whenever I ate too much meat, the symptoms would return.)
Now I never get symptoms, even though I eat lots of meat. They disappeared with all my other TMS symptoms.
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scd1833
USA
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Posted - 05/25/2009 : 19:00:41
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I had a nasty bout of hemorrhoids a few months ago, I got on the tms forum, and my suspicions that it might be a TMS equivalent were confirmed, did some yoga postures that said it would help, and hemorrhoids were gone in a week or two!
I sure acts like TMS... |
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