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 Disc Herniation - classic tms symptoms- need help
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pamelais

USA
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Posted - 04/27/2008 :  09:50:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have just started reading dr. sarno's book mindbody prescription and beginning working through the process suggeseted. i see myself in his book and many of the ailments described as tms generated. i am in tremendous pain that i originally attributed to a fall, however i have a history of back pain/issues that have caused a number of hospitalizations since i was 18 years old. the pain that comes and goes - hospitalizations, sciatica, general mystery pain, back neck, shoulders the works..... i see a naturopath, shiatsu healer, acupuncturist, i meditate, eat a anti-imflamitory organic diet and practice a variety of other natural healing methods and my pain persists in cycles i can directly relate to stress and repressed emotion. i cant seem to let go of treatment as i take a nosedive each time i do. i am exhausted by the pain and feel tremendous inner tension in trying to practice the sarno approach and still function. overthinking for sure. i cant seem commit fully and feel that i need help and further mindbody training to really experience a breakthrough.

i know that i am experiencing tms. i believe and practice the methods but cant seem to breakthrough. i am considering seeing a psychologist to help me work through these repressed emotions and am looking for a doctor that is experienced in treating me for this condition as opposed to the typically surgical/drugs route. i am stil taking pain meds occassionally and this is worrysome that i cant seem to let go of these as they do seem to help (especially valium) i know that if i continue i wont be able to fully engage with the tms healing process and letting go of the pain, redirecting my mind.

does anyone know of either a therapist or doctor in the portland area that is experienced in this area? i need help.

pamela

mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2008 :  13:53:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pam, sorry to hear of your pain. I had a herniated disc (Large one at L5 S1) and then leanred of Dr. Sarno and overcame the TMS pain with Dr. Sarno's treatment plan. (details in success stories)

A brief check on tarpityoga.com does not show TMS docs in Oregon, but they are in CA and WA. I know of one person who drove to WA to be treated.

Happy to hear you're reading Dr. Sarno's book. Have you tried writing out your feelings? Take a pad and just write. . . this is therapy in itself and I've done a lot of it. Letting go of things. Seeing a psychologist may work for you too. What was going on when you were 18 and older for example (you mention pain and hospitalizations at that age)? Can you think of specific events?

Best wishes for healing,

Lori
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mk6283

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2008 :  18:54:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
David D. Clarke, MD of OHSU has a private practice in Portland. He diagnoses and treats "stress illness," which is essentially TMS. He is very familiar with Dr. Sarno's work and has posted on this forum from time to time. He also wrote a very good book himself recently on psychosomatic medicine. I would consider seeing him, if possible. Best of luck to you!

www . stressillness . com
DrDave@stressillness . com

Best,
MK

Edited by - mk6283 on 04/27/2008 19:00:24
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armchairlinguist

USA
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Posted - 04/28/2008 :  17:39:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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i see a naturopath, shiatsu healer, acupuncturist, i meditate, eat a anti-imflamitory organic diet and practice a variety of other natural healing methods and my pain persists in cycles i can directly relate to stress and repressed emotion. i cant seem to let go of treatment as i take a nosedive each time i do.... i cant seem commit fully...


If you're doing all this physical treatment stuff, and it isn't working, and your pain is clearly related to stress and emotions, then TMS is the obvious diagnosis, as you say yourself.

However, in order to go the TMS route you do have to COMMIT. It is not surprising that you get worse when you stop your treatments. The treatments are distracting you, so if you have no treatments to distract you, the pain gets worse (also since you have no placebo treatments for your mind to grab onto as a reason for pain reduction). You might need to just surf through that. It's okay to use pain medication if it's neeeded to allow you to focus on doing the work and be able to take some positive action. Maybe it would help if you could try to clear off some time in your schedule when you don't have to "function" to deal with this. I know this is not possible for everyone but I'm just throwing out ideas here. But eventually you will need to stop the treatments you are using or you won't be able to make progress because the treatments undermine success by reinforcing a physical message. Is tailing off gradually an option? I did a bit of that -- I kept some things, like arm pillows and orthotics, a lot longer than others (chiropractic & massage).

It does sound like seeking some treatment from a TMS doctor or psychotherapist might be useful to you -- given the severity and length of the time you've had pain, you may have some serious stuff going on.

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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment.
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