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lookingforhelp

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Posted - 03/21/2008 :  13:59:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First some background info. Always been sort of OCD. About 5-10 years ago I had off and on again back pain. Loved to play golf especially, but when I played got very bad back pain. Had this off and on for about 2-4 years. Then my wife saw on Oprah (I think) Dr. Sarno´s book. Read it and also about the same time took up another hobby I was really excited about. Thus, golf become less importnant to me. And wouldn't you know my back pain pretty much went away in a few weeks. I was pretty much pain free for the last 7-8 years. I would get an occasional flair up, but would go away in about 7-10 days. Well about three months ago I got a vasectomy. The surgeon did mentioned a small percent of people have chronic pain. Well I think it may have predisposed me to get it. The surgery was fairly easy not alot of pain. Recovery started well. Ice and rest and was feeling better but not 100%. I did talk to someone at work who said he canceled his vasectomy because his wife read stuff on the Internet. But I stayed away from the interent and recovery was slow but going fairly well. As mentioned at about 6 weeks felt about 90-95%. Then when playing on the floor got a sharp pain in pelvis. Then I got a little scared. As mentioned I am kind of OCD, so I started reserching Post vasectomy pain on the internet. The I started to read the horror stories. Then I started getting more off and on again pain. I went to a urologist who gave me antibotics. They did not help. After which he said the pain has nothing to dp with the vasectomy and some people just have testicle pain. He said it would be up to me and if the pain got ot be too much he could remove it. Then the pain got a little worse. I went to another Uroligist who ordered a ultrasound. It showed everything was okay, no infection etc. He did say that some people get pain after a vasectomy and that it may go away on it's own, but I may want to try a nerve block. I was hoping that the ultrsound would have showed a infection as that would have been treatable with antibodies. Eversince I have gotten the ultrasound results it has gotten alot worse. The pain is almost unbearable at times. It is depressing the thought of scrotum pain for the rest of my life. Currently Vicotin is about the only thing that takes the edge off. Has anybody else heard of TMS playing a role in Post vasectomy pain?
I have been re-reading Dr Sarno's book this week, but it has not been helping. I have had alot of stress the last couple of years. I have two wonderful healthy little kids. I have been freaking out about their health, germs, toxins, air quality in our house, and just about everyting else in the last year. Now however, all I can think about is this unrelenting pain in my scrotum. All thru it though I have been leading a productive life. Only my wife and mother know about my OCD issues. I don't know what to do now as the pain and obcessing over it is becoming overbearing. I am considering the nerve block but I have read it does not always help which is also stressing me out.

Edited by - lookingforhelp on 03/24/2008 10:57:20

lookingforhelp

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Posted - 03/21/2008 :  14:19:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also forget to mention I have been confering with an expert via email who said some people get better with different treatments (vasectomy reversal is another option) and some don't, which scares the hell out of me.
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Littlebird

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Posted - 03/21/2008 :  16:37:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there,

Sorry about your difficulties. I don't have much to share, only that I have a son who experiences off-and-on severe testicle pain and sometimes swelling, although he's never had a vasectomy (my husband had one with no problems, healed right up), and my son's doctors have not been able to find any physical reason for the pain. But my son is married to a woman with serious mental health issues who makes life very stressful for him. (Even their 7 year old son is now showing signs of TMS from all the stress.) In addition to the stress at home, my son is dealing with a stressful job as well, so it seems highly likely that his unexplained testicle pain is TMS, but he's not ready to accept that.

So you're ahead in the game, since you're aware that you could be having a TMS manifestation that's taken over after the vasectomy healed. I know it's frustrating to try to confirm that this pain is really TMS. If you haven't already searched the forum for old threads that relate, I know there have been some past discussions, so there might be details in those threads that would be of interest to you.

Hope things work out soon!
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chester

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Posted - 03/21/2008 :  20:39:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was in a somewhat similar boat. I got snipped a year ago this month. I got what appeared to be a minor incision infection, and it went away quickly with antibiotics. A few months later, I got some testicular swelling and feared that I was having chronic infections of some kind. I read the same stuff that you did, and was horrified and enraged for letting myself be mutilated.

I went on antibiotics again and it went away. My urologist attributed it to (ahem) trauma rather than infection. I haven't had any problems since. However, it was only a few weeks later that I developed lower back pain that has continued on and off to this day, leading me to learn about TMS. Being somewhat OCD myself (which, ironically, has been cured since I started reading Sarno), I'm sure that vas-related concerns contributed, perhaps greatly, to my reservoir overflowing.

If it's possible that the mind can create pain when there is some sort of physical abnormality, like with a herniated disk, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it could do the same where surgery occurred.

BTW, if you want to read some serious refutations of the alleged dangers of vasectomy, check out http://www.dontfixit.info/. It made me feel a lot better when I was stressing out from all the horror stories I read.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

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lookingforhelp

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Posted - 03/22/2008 :  14:12:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chester thanks for the link and encouragement. I always figured most of the stuff on the don'tfixit site was taken out of context, however I have read most of the studies about it already and the most scary thing is when they say most people get better, but not all. I worry I am one of the rare ones.

How can I find a TMS docter who prescribes to Sarnos theories in the Ohio/Indiana area? Is there a list of TMS practitioners somewhere? It may help me if I could talk to someone in person who diagnoses TMS in their patients.


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