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Jackiethom

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Posted - 03/04/2008 :  16:41:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it a bad idea to have a timeline for curing a particular TMS symtom? Or is this just part of being a perfectionist?

I was able to get rid of chronic arm pain within about a week of reading Sarno's book, but am having a terrible time getting rid of some of the TMS equivalents- acne in particular. Any suggestions?
Any input on dermatology issues?

Thanks!

armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2008 :  17:04:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, it's a bad idea to have a timeline. It's wonderful that you were able to get rid of your pain so quickly! The annoying-but-not-necessarily-painful equivalents (skin problems being the classic example) are harder to fight mentally, so I ended up just giving up after a while and believing that my intractable dandruff was TMS but not monitoring, caring, trying to fight it. Then it went away after a while. Some months, maybe. Gotta get that long-term attitude about this stuff going. :)

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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment.
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Jackiethom

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Posted - 03/04/2008 :  17:25:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's funny that you mentioned the non-painful symptoms as being the most difficult to get rid of. I really believe that!!! Pain can be felt and vanish within minutes, but skin problems, they usually need a little time to heal. I can imagine dandruff being the same way. This is why I tend to doubt. I don't get the instantaneous results as I did with my previous arm pain.

In your case with the dandruff, did you just tell yourself that you didn't care that you had dandruff? Or did you just tell yourself that you didn't have it at all?

By 100% commitment do you mean committed to the right attitude about the symptom?

Thanks for your input.. I really appreciate it!!!!
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armchairlinguist

USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 :  20:10:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think they necessarily need time to heal, although that's possible, just that like you said, it's a less definite thing, a bit amorphous what's actually happening.

I told myself that I knew the dandruff was TMS so I didn't care about it, and that I believed it would go away in the long run. I have to admit here that I did also switch to milder shampoos, but this was for a different reason (environmental concern), and I can still use regular shampoo without problems, which never used to be true.

My sig requires some long explanation for the full version, but basically the idea is that it's important to behave as if you believe. Doubt is a normal part of new beliefs and if you go trying to eliminate every last bit of doubt, you'll go crazy. So you commit in your behavior to belief and go from there.

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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment.
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Dave

USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 :  21:22:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jackiethom

Is it a bad idea to have a timeline for curing a particular TMS symtom?

Yes, it's generally a bad idea. Take a long-term view.

Think of TMS as a bad habit you have developed over your entire lifetime. You have to recondition yourself to break the habit. It takes time and persistence.

If you want to lose weight and keep it off, you have to permanently change your mindset about food. Diets don't work. If you want to have lasting relief from TMS symptoms you have to permanently change your mindset about the symptoms and their origins. There is no quick fix.
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DrGUID

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2008 :  03:40:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think we're in the early stages of TMS and dermatology issues.

I've had quite bad excema this winter. It might be TMS related, but there is definately a climate (cold and dry) and diet element (mainly diary products) that makes it worse.
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mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2008 :  13:42:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie, I would suggest Louise Hay's You Can Heal Your Life to see what she has suggests could be emotions for acne. There are charts with physical conditions and suggestions of causes and helpful hints for healing. You'd have to see if you think the cause she lists could be true for you.

I love this book (and others by her) as I learned more about loving myself and forgiving myself and others to heal. (Most libraries have this book too.)

-Lori
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johnaccardi

USA
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Posted - 03/06/2008 :  20:57:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, I am in a very similar situation.

I had hip pain that went away through reading Dr. Sarno's, "The Divided Mind," but TMS equivialnts remain.

I still have dry mouth, gritty eyes, dry skin, and arm numbess. Pain does seem to be the easiest and fastest thing to get rid of. These others symptoms are much harder to "forget" about, they have me obsessed, so I guess the TMS is doing it's job.
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Jackiethom

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Posted - 03/07/2008 :  09:07:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, it's the obsession that keeps the symptoms there, I think. I have the same problem- I'm completely obsessed with it too. BUT, it is JUST AS possible to get rid of the equivalents as it is with the other pain syndromes. We can COMPLETELY get over them! Even just these past few days, since I first posted, I've been trying to get my mind to be more "at ease" and recondition myself to think more psychologically and I think its starting to work!!
Persistence is the most important thing. Even if symptoms come back again we just have to fight the temptation to fear them. We'll get ove them... entirely.
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