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mk6283

USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 :  16:13:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone have any experience w/ these in the realm of TMS? I am not referring to the more familiar sensation of "palpitations" that often occurs in conjunction w/ some tachyarrhythmia where the heartbeat is more rapid and/or pounding. I am also not referring to skipped beats as a feature of some form of heart block. Palpitations can clearly be a TMS equivalent. My suspicion is that these skipped beats can also be psychogenic. It is possible that they are the consequence of some premature beats (TMS?), but I'm not sure. Thanks.

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MK

Edited by - mk6283 on 03/04/2008 16:19:33

sagelady

USA
61 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2008 :  16:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MK-
I know when I see my cardiologist ( white coat syndrome and all) He will occationally see a PAC or PVC. But yet i have had holter monitors that captured a rare PVc.( a normal variant in a 24 hour peroid in people with normal hearts)

My Doc told me that PVC's and PAC's do have an emotional component. That the "fight or flight" adrenaline kick is enough to do that.Add white coat, GAD and hypochondria, and oh yeah, TMS, well need I say more.

I also know that with women ( I know this dosen't apply, but hear me out). That hormones also can cause "missed beats". And we both know the adrenal system/ pit. system etc are all connected. And all respond to stress.

So there you have it, from a nursing prospective. A little role reversal?

Sage

By the way, went for my first Dr. Schubiner workshop last night,, AWESOME!!!

Edited by - sagelady on 03/04/2008 16:29:28
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mk6283

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2008 :  17:21:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to follow up. I truly am a TMS poster child. So as you know, I noticed some skipped beats the other day and finally convinced myself that it was just a few PAC/PVCs from anxiety/TMS (or probably just too much coffee). Of course, being the hypochondriac that I am, I still auscultated my own heart and actually picked up a little murmur that left me uneasy. I had my attending listen to it today and wouldn't you know -- MITRAL VALVE PROLAPSE! (recall: MVP = TMS) Don't you just love it when all the pieces fit together so perfectly...Occam's razor...

Best,
MK

Edited by - mk6283 on 03/06/2008 19:53:30
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swmr1

USA
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Posted - 03/06/2008 :  19:10:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, this is interesting. I was diagnosed with Mitral Valve Prolapse a few years ago. At the time it was freaking me out a little because I would just feel these adrenaline rushes for no reason and my heart would beat somewhat erratically. It used to stress me out until I began to notice that it wasn't causing me any damage at all. The stress tests and holter tests have all come back fine. I did just have one a few months ago with PAC's or PVC's (can't remember which) but I also had just suffered a pulmonary embolism as a result of hormones. While I was in the hospital one of the nurses was concerned with my irregular heartbeat. I think that was a result of the hormones and probably stress.

I've learned to approach any irregular heartbeat issues (or funny adrenaline feelings) as TMS. And they usually go away easily. I'm sure hormones have something to do with things as I'm clearly starting perimenopause. But, when I get all worried it's much worse.
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mk6283

USA
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Posted - 03/06/2008 :  19:25:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha, sorry that I can't relate to the perimenopausal component being a 24 year old male and all. Otherwise, I think we both see eye to eye on the underlying role of TMS in our situation. Sorry to hear about the PE, hopefully you are in much better health these days, both physically and mentally...

Best,
MK

Edited by - mk6283 on 03/06/2008 19:27:50
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swmr1

USA
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Posted - 03/07/2008 :  05:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks--I didn't make it clear that my PE was a result of synthetic hormones (birth control that I had recently started) and not regular hormonal activity. I am doing really well and expect that was an isolated incident. But I won't be taking any more synthetic hormones!
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