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Dor
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 Posted - 02/16/2008 : 17:56:22
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This past December I experienced mild ringing in my ears. Since then it has gotten progressively worse. Let me preface this by saying that since June I have had five teeth extracted and lots of dental problems, including new partials that did not work and awaiting new ones and probable TMJ (something he mentions as a TMS symptom). There has also been some sinus congestion. I am a big fan of Dr. Sarno and have gone back through his books and read where ringing in the ears can be pyschologically based. It makes sense to me as we have recently moved to another state and things have been stressful. A visit to an ear, nose, and throat doctor showed that there was nothing seriously wrong, and a several visits with acupunture and herbs does not seem to be releiving the problem. The ear still feels congested and with lots of ringing. Has anyone experienced this with TMS? I understand that I have had a stressful year - move, kidney stones, teeth issues to name a few, but I do feel aware of my feelings and stress. I am very much at a loss as to how to look at all of this and how to help myself even understanding the emotional issues.
Thanks, Dor
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mcone
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Posted - 02/16/2008 : 21:34:55
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I realize this may not be warmly received in the TMS forum, but it would be difficult for me to get past a suspect connection with all that dental work. I'm not just introducing this to make you even more anxious than you already are, however; I actually have a constructive suggestion - nueromuscular dentistry.
That's a fancy jargon term for a cutting edge school of dentisty that uses state of the art bite-modeling techniques to line up your upper and lower jaws with great precision (i.e., rebuild or reshape teeth, or with splints). The very first sentence of thier intro page mentions tinnitus:
"Neuromuscular Dentistry can help alleviate symptoms such as headaches, neck and shoulder pain, jaw pain, clicking or popping in the jaw, and tinnitus (ringing in the ears)."
See here:
http://www.leadingdentists.com/index.html
I plan on consulting with such a dentist myself - to evaluate a problematic bite issue that I developed following extensive dental work.
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Dor
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Posted - 02/17/2008 : 05:15:41
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Thank you very much for your honesty and for your reply. I am pretty sure that you are correct as all the pieces seem to fit together. Hopefully with the new partials and some adjusting I can get this under control. I have also looked at the website you recommended and will take that into my dentist. Thank you so much.
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Odrog
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Posted - 02/17/2008 : 17:48:32
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Originally posted by mcone
"Neuromuscular Dentistry can help alleviate symptoms such as headaches, neck and shoulder pain, jaw pain, clicking or popping in the jaw, and tinnitus (ringing in the ears)."
I don't know a darn thing about 'Neuromuscular dentistry" but BEWARE of ANY and all procedures/surgeries/drugs that supposedly alleviate a long list of symptoms that are all or mostly included in the list of psychosomatic disorders. EVERY SINGLE THING on the list you mentioned is included in the lists of known psychosomatic symptoms which makes the idea extremely suspect even without me having to look further.
That is NOT to say these treatments can't work, drugs and surgery CAN alleviate symptoms, but if in fact it was a mindbody issue, almost anything you did or do that you believed would help, could in fact help and the "cure" was not truely related to the drug or procedure. Of course if its a mindbody issue you could also get cured without drugs and surgery. |
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Allan
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Posted - 02/17/2008 : 18:53:58
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In my case, ringing in the ears (tinnitus) was definitely TMS or emotionally (stress) induced.
Fortunately, reading Dr. Sarno eliminated my back pain. The tinnitus went with it, that is, it stopped at the same time. Oddly enougth, my heart murmur (mitral valve prolaspe) of many years stopped at the same time also.
One might say that all of my TMS problems left at once.
My back pain and MLP never came back. Tinnutus did for a short while and then disappeared again.
Stress is difficult to eliminate. Developing a good sense of humor helps. Did you ever hear of Norman Cousins? He laughed his way to good health. Look up Anatomy of an Illness on Amazon.
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mk6283
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Stryder
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Posted - 02/17/2008 : 21:43:32
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| If your doc has found nothing seriously wrong with your hearing, then tinnitus is a benign manifestation. You can ignore it or treat it as you would any TMS equiv. It just means you brain is registering (listening to) the background noise that most people just never notice. So I read your post, now I hear my ears ringing again too. Take care, -Stryder |
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mcone
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Posted - 02/17/2008 : 23:26:27
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I would submit that both psychological stress and mechanical jaw issues can precipitate tinnitus. If anyone doubts the latter, simply try biting down hard momentarily and see if you don't get an amplification of background ringing. (I agree that many or most people probably have some residual ringing all the time - noticeable in quiet rooms, I know I do)
The proposed physiological TMS mechanism - restriction of blood flow, neatly explains tinnitus in both scenarios (TMS or mechanical). In fact, a number of dietary supplements, herbs, and drugs which (allegedly) increase cerebral blood flow (and/or vasodilation of micro-capillaries) are reported to improve symptoms of tinnitus, such as Hydergine (drug), Ginkgo Biloba and Vinpocetine (dietary supplements).
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Dor
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Posted - 02/18/2008 : 06:31:37
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| Thank you to all of you who so kindly replied. Were it not for the five extractions this past summer, and also all lower molars gone over the past five years, I would certainly think that TMS had to be considered. And, I think it does play a part in my problem as well. However, I agree with much that mcone has to say. Without teeth pressure is put on the joint and muscles of the face as the jaw begins to shift and muscles are strained due to eating in a different way and trying to compensate for a damaged mouth. I believe mcone is exactly right that blood flow is restricted which does go along with Dr. Sarno. However Dr. Sarno always prefaces his thoughts by stating that all medical problems should be ruled out first. I do believe that I am a medical problem at this point as the symptoms arose only after extreme dental work. I believe that Dr. Sarno has done wonderful work and I continue to use his ideas, research, and theory. I do think though that sometimes that two problems must be combined as mcone suggests - a structural problem due to loss of teeth (medical) and a stress one (Dr. Sarno). Again, thanks to all of you. |
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