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la_kevin

USA
351 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  03:50:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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koukla

70 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  04:56:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kevin,

It seems to me like you are TMSing, especially since you seem to be obsessing about the particulars about this new pain and you have been under unusual stress lately. I know exactly what you mean about feeling under pressure to make up for lost time. I recently had the same thing happen to me with my artwork. I felt like I needed to make up for the past year of not doing anything. Consequently, I brought on a TMS attack every time I sat down with my pen in hand to draw. I personally get very stressed out around the holidays so this might also be happening to you. Plus, your new found productivity may be a little too productive if you are putting pressure on yourself to maintain a certain level of activity. Maybe you should give yourself a day to lounge around and relax and do whatever you feel like doing, not what you think you should be doing.
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mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  09:24:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding the "old injury", Dr. Sarno would say your body has healed thus any new pain is highly unlikely due to an old injury.

Fear can be gripping and debilitating. Trust me, I know.

I personally have chosen to go the psychological route first when any new pain shows up. Think and then FEEL what is going on in my life (it's been an interesting year) or write about what new memory has popped up. Have had no need to seek medical treatment as each pain has left after some mind work.

In other news: it is almost a year since my Dr. Sarno appointment (1/3/07), and subsequent recovery of the worst pain of my life! Oh happy day!

-Lori
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gezondheid

50 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  11:02:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi La Kevin,

I think your decision was brilliant to act as if there was no TMS. On the other hand, what would you do if you would never have had TMS. I don't think think you would do so much. I did the same thing (being free of backpain for 6 months), do more and more and also don't mind the resistance to stop. It came back like a rocket in november and i'am until now not "normal".

The mechanism stays the same. If your (internal) life can't deal with a lot of pressure and you take up a lot the result will be the same i think.

We humans think that we must be active at least 12 ours a day. This is total nonsense. Do this, do that, and sports, and things with the kids and friends, work and and and and.... The problem is that our lives are packed with responsibilities and those pressures never stop.
In that we must find a balance. It looks like that we as humans only can be happy when we are in a cultural approved ratrace. Look at mammals they dwell for ours. It balances their systems. We don't have that possibility on a daily basis. We have TMS, other persons get depressed, others drop dead (my neighbor a year ago, 53 years old)etc.

My advice for you is keep up the mindset that TMS is in the core nothing. Don't push it and relax when possible for longer times. Not to cure your TMS but to stop overloading your systems. Do things but not to much. I do it myself but i never understood where this behavior comes from, always doing things. It's neuritic but that is the whole western world. I also would advice you to check if you are highly sensitive (HSP). The combination HSP/TMS is killing. It surprises me that HSP is almost never mentioned on this board. In my opinion HSP can cause TMS.
You can also let yourself be checked if that secures you. I did that 2 weeks ago. Nothing structural was found.

Keep up the spirit and recover soon.

Gezondheid

Greetings Gezondheid
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Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  11:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by la_kevin
I have been puting a lot of pressure on myself to get everything done that I haven't for the past few years. I think I over did it. I've been a big "over achiever" this week. I haven't journaled in weeks. I can feel the pressure I've been puting on myself, but I thought keeping busy was "good" and that the pressure will go away if I keep busy and drown myself in activity. I think I made a mistake assuming that.


This is good train of thought. It should have been the first part of your message, before you talked about the specifics of the pain.

"Keeping busy" is a distraction in and of itself. The pressure doesn't go away. It just gets pushed down into your unconscious and then surfaces as TMS symptoms.

It is common for TMS to present different symptoms in different locations just as you are starting to achieve success at ignoring the symptoms. Don't fall into the trap.

Instead, laugh and "tell your brain" that you know what it's trying to do and won't let it succeed. Then go journal and explore the rage that the child feels inside because you insist on putting pressure on yourself instead of just taking it easy.
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la_kevin

USA
351 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2007 :  05:23:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I understand that I'm supposed to talk about the "psychological", but the thread is about a new pain.

Anyway, I did some journaling yesterday. My journal entry are very small talky sometimes, that doesn't help. There are deeper things that I'm feeling, just have to have the courage to look at them in all honesty.

Im just TIRED. Ya know? TIred of everything..if that makes sense. SOme days I just don't want to be awake. Wish I could sleep for a few weeks and not wake up to another TMS day. Just tired of pain and battling TMS. SO frustrated with it all. One step forward two steps back.

Theres a point when even the rage goes beyond rage. You get so infuriated that you can't even tell WHAT the emotion is anymore. It's like this cold axe murderer inside you after years of chronic pain. Like I just want to smash everything with a sledgehammer and bulldoze entire cities while laughing with a sinister laugh and flipping off everyone watching. Yes, that sounds nuts, and no it wont happen. But thats what I feel like.

I wish someone could relate, but I guess it would be too politically incorrect to admit that chronic pain can make you feel like a madman.

ANd yes, the PAIN itself is an "issue". It's a pressure, it's a contributor to the rage. Pain creates rage, constant sensation in muscles creates rage. Feeling disabled creates rage. Sorry, that's juts the way it is.

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"It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment." Armchairlinguist(?)
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gezondheid

50 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2007 :  06:45:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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La Kevin wrote:
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Im just TIRED. Ya know? TIred of everything..if that makes sense. SOme days I just don't want to be awake. Wish I could sleep for a few weeks and not wake up to another TMS day. Just tired of pain and battling TMS. SO frustrated with it all. One step forward two steps back.

Theres a point when even the rage goes beyond rage. You get so infuriated that you can't even tell WHAT the emotion is anymore. It's like this cold axe murderer inside you after years of chronic pain. Like I just want to smash everything with a sledgehammer and bulldoze entire cities while laughing with a sinister laugh and flipping off everyone watching. Yes, that sounds nuts, and no it wont happen. But thats what I feel like.

I wish someone could relate, but I guess it would be too politically incorrect to admit that chronic pain can make you feel like a madman.
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Hi La Kevin,

I fully understand what you mean. It is not incorrect to feel like a madman. It's ****ing hell this pain. I would say let go all of your so called thoughts that are political. Can it be La Kevin that your personal situation (work, family, other things, money) is so pressing
that you have to modify this (if you can). I think if a current situation is not satisfying or to heavy(and it is already long so) you can journal what you want but if live becomes a fight against what you must do (separate from TMS) than maybe there lies a clue. Maybe you you have gone already along this thinkpath.
I want to organize my life so that i have more relax time, work that i love and balance my life between my family and myself.

I can fully relate with you. But there must be a clue or inroad to what your pain causes.

I don't know if this helps but i wish you all the support. You are gonna make it.

Greetings Gezondheid
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electraglideman

USA
162 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2007 :  18:53:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by la_kevin

It's like this cold axe murderer inside you after years of chronic pain. Like I just want to smash everything with a sledgehammer and bulldoze entire cities while laughing with a sinister laugh and flipping off everyone watching.




Have you ever used a boxing bag? I'm talking about a big heavy boxing bag. Go bang on one while thinking about the people, issues, and situations that really piss you off. Hit on that bag until your give out. Make sure you use gloves so you don't injure yourself.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how it helps with your recovery.
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