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painintheneck
USA
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 Posted - 11/20/2007 : 08:29:29
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I have two of Sarno's books but never did get divided mind. Does it have enough new info in it to really be worth buying too because really out of the two I have I could have done with only the one?
Thanks in advance for opinions.
P.S. I currently own Healing back pain, the Mind-body connection and The Mindbody prescription, Healing the body, healing the pain. |
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almost there
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Posted - 11/20/2007 : 09:31:17
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| I have all of "the good doctor's" books.....he seems to fine tune his ideas as time goes by and includes many other conditions besides "back pain"....in the Divided Mind he talks about the "symptom imperative".....very interesting concept.....also, several other physicians offer their opinions......I would say....get it.....anyone with TMS should have their own library where they can reference when the ugly gremlin attacks! |
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mizlorinj
USA
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Posted - 11/20/2007 : 14:47:49
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I bought TDM because I wanted the most up-to-date information. There are psychological history chapters, also chapters from other docs who have successfully treated TMS patients with various equivalents.
Try it from your library if you're uncertain.
-Lori |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
330 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2007 : 16:13:13
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in the Divided Mind he talks about the "symptom imperative".....
Almost there,
I never did buy the Divided Mind, can you explain the above in a couple of sentences.
Will order it when I am back in the UK
Anne |
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Carole
USA
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Posted - 11/20/2007 : 17:14:40
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The Divided Mind is quite interesting and goes into detail about us.
If you're into specifics and other interesting things, you'll get a lot out of it.
I also have the cd which I've listened to a few times. I'd skip a few of the tracks on the cd's that go into the history.
I just read "To Be or Not To Be... Pain Free" by Marc Sopher.
It was a real page turner and a different angle from Sarno's writing
on tms. I really liked it and would recommend it to anyone who can't get their mind around Healing Back Pain.
In fact, my Dad (who suffers from tms) and also my dear boyfriend (a marathon runner) are really into it.
Thanks to Alltherunner who recommended "Chi Running". Jim's times are faster, he's really enjoying his 13 mile runs and is pain free ! |
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2007 : 09:23:09
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just get TDM from your local library.  |
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painintheneck
USA
124 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2007 : 10:38:30
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| LOL I live rural and I have more that type books than my Library carries. They can look and see what Library has it and then order it which i have done before but it's more hassle than it's worth. It's faster to go to amazon and have one shipped to my house. Thanks for the suggestion though lol. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 11/21/2007 : 14:51:23
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I liked the chapter by Andrea Leonard-Segal in particular. I think the chapters from the other physicians are very valuable. Sarno writes in a certain way, and the others have their own approaches and may put things in terms that resonate more with you.
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
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kelvin
USA
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Posted - 11/21/2007 : 15:14:49
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Originally posted by Scottydog
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in the Divided Mind he talks about the "symptom imperative".....
... can you explain the above in a couple of sentences.
Go to this link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060851783 and you can search inside the book for "symptom imperative". I am not sure, but you may have to have an account with Amazon to read inside the book.
Kelvin
Additional TMS files and links http://kelvin.gunnells.net (may not work with FireFox browser) |
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CFSgirl
Canada
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Posted - 11/21/2007 : 17:21:50
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Scotty Dog,
As I understand it, the symptom imperative says that should your original symptom be successfully treated by a non-tms procedure - ie surgery, or if you manage to make one symptom go away but have not managed to get to the bottom of your repressed emotions, then another symptom will appear.
A benign example. The other day I was furious with my doctor. I have dealt rather well with my original tms issues, judging by results, but being so angry, I developed a new symptom - knee pain. I would previously have thought that perhaps my knees were developing problems due to my weight. This time I laughed because I knew where the pain came from. It cleared up - mostly that night and gone by the end of the next day.
A dangerous example. Perhaps you've had back surgery and your nerve problems have been treated well enough for your sub-conscious to have no further excuses for that aggravation. Because you haven't dealt with your emotions, you now develop a more serious condition such as cancer or a heart attack. Such examples are given in the book.
Hope that makes sense - it's a bit wordy, but I think I've given the gist of it.
Bettie
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
330 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2007 : 19:05:17
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Thanks Bettie,
That does expalain it clearly. Kelvin's link takes you to the book on Amazon, click on 'more' and you can search for anything in the book. Very helpful.
Thanks,
Anne |
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