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curingCFS
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Posted - 11/15/2007 : 07:07:51
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I'm just gonna throw these titles out here and maybe some veterans can read and comment on these books by Karol Truman.
Feelings Buried alive Never Die and her second book Healing Feelings...From Your Heart.
In it she describes a method called Scripting. This scripting seems like it would be a really helpful add-on tool for the healing program of Sarno/Selfridge/Brady etc. It has really good reviews. And I have this week read both of them.
I'd like to get veteran opinions on her books, in particular scripting.
Interesting also is what she has to say as possible emotional causes of CFS/FM:
Feeling totally alone Feelings of desolation Feelings of despair Feeling hopeless "It's no use" Tired of trying to prove yourself Low Self-worth Has lost the will to live
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Penny
USA
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Posted - 11/15/2007 : 07:15:19
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Hi Linda,
Can you explain more about scripting? What is it? Is it a type of journaling?
Personally I journal, and do inner child journaling. I even sometimes switch hands and write with my opposite hand. This is very frustrating to me b/c I am a writer and cannot write with my left hand at all quickly, so this helps me tap into frustration.It's a very bizarre feeling to watch words come out of me that way, but has taught me some good stuff about my self-imposed high standards and expectations.
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curingCFS
36 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2007 : 07:52:18
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Scripting is a script with fill in the blanks. You are taking your feeling and asking your Self, Spirit, Intelligence, who/whatever you are comfortable saying and asking it to take it to the origin of the feeling and to heal and transform all incidences throughout time and then transform with positive feelings and then thanking who/whatever for the healing. Kinda sort of. The wording is important yet she allows for whatever religous/non-religious changes one would make.
TMS healing is acknowlegement---I see/feel you. The scripting is I see/feel you and I chose to transform you, I guess is what it is.
It is said out loud, or to yourself. Your meant to eventually memmorize the script then you can do it anywhere at anytime on the fly. It is not so much a prayer as it is a directive.
Say TMS wise I see/feel I'm jealous, I wish I could do that too. I could script, jealousy, or being left out, and then I could change to I applaud, or I am enough or whatever. Yeah, I'm not gonna be able to really hit on the crux of it. I hope somebody here will read it though!
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Curiosity18
USA
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Posted - 11/15/2007 : 08:42:37
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Hi Linda,
I would think that this particular technique would be very powerful in healing TMS. It sounds like the feelings are being deeply explored, but with an added spiritual component (as well as positive self-talk). I didn't notice anger or rage listed, however it would seem that they could be components of just about everything on the list. I remember when I was trying to heal my symptoms during the 80s using only positive affirmations (before Sarno knowledge). It obviously didn't work. From your description it seems that Truman is utilizing a combination of the two.
I wish you the best!
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Penny
USA
364 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2007 : 20:57:33
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HI Linda,
Thanks for the explanation aobut scripting. Sounds fascinating. I'd really like to read the book and consider it in TMS context to be able to comment appropriately, but these are my first thoughts.
My brain is devil's advocating against taking initiative to reason with negative emotions to take them from negative to positive. I understand about transforming negative ideas and can see the benefits (it ends the suffering or negative emotions), but personally one of my biggest problems and reasons behind my TMS is my not being ok with the yucky negative feelings. I suppress to the point that I don't even know the negative yuck is in me. Until TMS understanding I never allowed myself to feel jealousy, rarely ever got angry, never ever ever got bored, I rarely allowed myself to feel let alone express many other ill-regarded feelings which are human emotions that are naturally part of the human emotional repertoire.
Sometimes feeling the emotional yuck and just letting it be is what I need to experience in order for the pain to let up. When I began understanding and playing with TMS theory, I cried for weeks. Hours and hours a day. Pain and tears came pouring out of me. At first I tried to stop it, justify it, reason with it, but I was in so much physical pain, I had to just let go and allow myself to feel the emotions I never knew I was capable for.
I am a devout optimist. Optimism is my religion Learning how to feel the yuckies and let them just be there, that was almost unbearable for me, but I feel like it's part of the reason I am recovering from TMS.
Interestingly enough --well at least to me this has effected how I parent my children. When they get upset, instead of denying or trying to evolve their feelings, I try really hard just to let them be. It's really amazing, because they recover on their own and are developing resilience. Of course, I'm teaching them safe places and boundaries for negative expression, but I'm not denying how they feel, nor am I trying to replace their feelings with how they "should feel" in situations.
Does this make sense? I'm not at all poo-pooing your suggestion, I just wonder if it works to cover or mask the emotions that som many of us goodists perfectionist peoplepleaser LIVE to avoid?
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curingCFS
36 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2007 : 07:45:38
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Penny that is an EXCELLENT point you have made. Yes, yes, I see how that is not uncovering. It is more, I see and acknowledge and now want to transform it. Yes energy can never be lost, it can only be transformed but to end a session with "and now it is no longer there" defeats the purpose of seeing that it IS there. TMS recovery is I SEE YOU, not I transform you.
Thank you for your input--a veteran would see what a neewbie can't. I won't mess with the process trying to "improve" it. Stick with what has worked.
And wow your first few weeks sounds like where I will be thank you for sharing. You must be a hardcore goodist to have repressed so much! I begin the program tonight as I am finalizing writing down the gameplan.
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Curiosity18
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2007 : 14:04:55
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I strongly suspect that certain personality types respond differently in this healing process. Penny, you mentioned that you are an eternal optimist/goodist, so common in many TMS folks. It makes sense that you would need to completely immerse yourself in the negative/painful, and to just allow yourself to be with that. Because you're naturally an optimistic person however, it would seem that at some point in your process your natural positive self-dialogue would likely permeate through the throes of the experience.
I have found that many TMS folks like myself, although goodists, are not optimists, and carry around a great deal of conscious anger/pessimism. While I completely agree that it is still necessary to "do the work", i.e. spending time getting beneath the negative feelings/journaling, I believe that for those types, it's critical to also spend some time on the negative thinking/beliefs about self, others and the future. Otherwise one potentially risks spiraling in a perpetual void of hopelessness, helplessness and doubt. There are many approaches to this (Eckhart Tolle, Bruce Lipton, etc).
I think it is our individual challenge in this inner healing journey to discover who we are, and what works best for us.
Peace and healing-
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armchairlinguist
USA
1397 Posts |
Posted - 11/19/2007 : 18:09:17
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Curiosity, that is a good point about optimists vs. pessimists and the importance of incorporating and acknowledging both positive and negative. I sometimes wonder if 'pessimists' repress joy because they fear that their joy will be punctured by life/circumstances/someone else if they don't. I know repression of joy has been discussed here before. I think I do it a little bit, even if I am an optimist. I tend to disclaim the value of small joys sometimes, or my perfectionist nature disclaims joy about my accomplishments because they are not perfect.
Penny -- how lucky your kids are! And you, too, to be able to build that kind of relationship with them.
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Wavy Soul
USA
779 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2007 : 00:33:33
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Okay - I ordered the book through Amazon 2nd hand. It came really quickly and I just speed-read it.
I just did the "Script" technique on many things that have been lurking. Very good. Excellent. Try it!
Don't want to say more right now.
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Wavy Soul
USA
779 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2007 : 01:08:19
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Here is a questionnaire from Karol Truman's website, for diagnosing one's feelings. It is freely offered on her site, so I guess it's okay to copy here. Go there, to www.healingfeelings.com to get her books and other products:
First Look . . . Self Evaluation
The following questions are intended to guide you as you begin evaluating your feelings and the impact feelings have in your life. Becoming aware of your feelings is a necessary step to changing negative feelings to positive feelings.
You may choose to print a copy of your answers and compare them with how you feel in a few weeks or months. You might also consider starting a Feelings Journal, as a journal can be an important tool in assisting you to identify your feelings and where and when they are triggered. May you be blessed as you begin your Journey of discovery--of "Self" discovery!
Note: There are two steps to the evaluation. Step 1: Answer the questions and print out the web page with your answers. Step 2: Click the ‘Step 2 - Self Evaluation button at the end of the evaluation for helpful information on each question and how your answer relates to the Healing Feelings books. Answers are not saved. If you leave this web page before completion and printing it, you will need to retake the evaluation.
1. In communicating the language of feelings with others, my current ability to do this efficiently is: Lousy Not So Good Pretty Good Great This first question assists you in ‘tuning in’ to how you communicate your feelings to others, which is often a challenge, but a necessary part of living. Much of our feelings Journey is focused inward. Communicating your feelings to others, however, will show a level of maturity in your ability to grasp the language of feelings. When you become more efficient at sharing your feelings with others, it will signify that you have begun to correctly identify your feelings. People will notice the change you are experiencing as you become proficient in the language of feelings. 2. If I stop to think about it, I can usually identify my feelings accurately. Never Rarely Sometimes Frequently Always The purpose of this question is to open your view to the reality that the majority of us are not very proficient in identifying our feelings. Most people come from, "Feelings are something that just happen to me," rather than evaluating their feelings throughout the day and accepting their responsibility in maintaining harmony. As you progress along your Journey, you will gain expertise in the language of feelings, and new vistas will open to you. This, in turn, will begin to awaken the Divine nature in you.
A technique used to help you focus on your feelings is to: 1) Take in a deep breath through your nose and let it out slowly through your mouth. 2) Take another deep breath through your nose. Hold it three counts at the top of the breath, and then let it out slowly. Relax throughout your whole body as you do this. (Feel the stress and noise of the day leaving with each breath.) This puts you in both sides of your brain so you don’t have to "figure" out your answers. Also, it’s easier to reflect on your feelings without being overly influenced by events around you.
The aim of the Healing Feelings Team is to assist you as you establish behavior that promotes self-introspection, quiet time, and writing in your Feelings Journal. Finding brief times throughout the day to focus inward is also key to maintaining your balance. You may choose to utilize 30-60 seconds before you perform tasks throughout the day. For example, pause 30 seconds before opening the refrigerator and reflect on what you are feeling, or stand up and examine your feelings for 60 seconds before turning on the television. If the television is already on, turn it off during the next commercial break and focus your thoughts to how you are feeling about something unrelated to the program you are watching. For additional information, please refer to "How, then, do we know what we are feeling?" on page 39 in, Healing Feelings From . . . Your Heart. As you apply these suggestions, you will be amazed at how proficient you become in identifying your feelings. While participating in these exercises you also place yourself on the path of your choosing, rather than simply floating along where life takes you.
3. If I were to characterize the underlying negative feelings that motivate my actions and attitudes, they would be: Anger/Resentment No Sense of Direction Guilt/Shame Fearful/Anxious Bitterness/Hate Overwhelmed/Burdened Rejection/Abandonment I just don’t Understand Need for Approval Not Enough/Not Good Enough Need to Control Resistant/Hostile Lost/Alone Hopeless/Helpless Sad/Depressed This question helps you to put into words the negative feelings that govern your current reactions to life. Identifying these feelings is the first step in the process of resolving them--in changing them from negative to positive. The ‘Script’ from Feelings Buried Alive Never Die . . . and Healing Feelings . . . From Your Heart will help you make this change from negative to positive feelings. You may choose to utilize your Feelings Journal for listing other negative feelings you are experiencing. When you are ready to Script those feelings, use the Feelings list in Chapter 17 of Feelings Buried Alive Never Die . . . to find the positive replacement feelings.
The impact of your new positive feelings will energize every part of your day. Then, as you continue using these processes, piece by piece your True Self emerges unclouded by the people, places, circumstance, or events around you. Be prepared to feel a sense of empowerment as you continue working with the ‘Script’. It has the ability to literally change your circumstances and your outlook on life!
4. If I could change anything in my life, it would be:
Taking time to write out specific things you would change in your life will assist you in formulating a plan for change. It may be a relationship, a job situation, or a thought pattern you are striving to change. Once your desire is written out, you can associate the negative feelings that hold you captive and replace them with positive feelings. It will amaze you that by simply changing your feelings/thoughts you can change an entire situation or relationship. 5. If I were to describe my relationship with my __________ it would be: Spouse: Lousy Not So Good Pretty Good Great Children: Lousy Not So Good Pretty Good Great Extended Family: Lousy Not So Good Pretty Good Great Friends: Lousy Not So Good Pretty Good Great Co-workers: Lousy Not So Good Pretty Good Great Relationships are frequently blamed for how we feel. Challenging relationships can be healed, however, as we see the relationship from a new perspective. It is imperative that we remove the responsibility for how we feel from others in order to liberate our True Self. We are not defined by others or their perception of us. We are defined by our Divine heritage and our own feelings. Relationships greatly improve as we quit blaming someone else for how we feel, look to our Self and take responsibility for our "less than glorious" feelings. We can ‘Script’ to bring positive feelings into our life. We can learn to forgive others for their misperception about who we really are. Review chapter 9, "Liberating Your ‘Self’", and chapters 15 & 16 on Forgiveness in Healing Feelings . . . From Your Heart for additional insight on healing relationships. This Journey will once again take you inside your Self. As Dag Hammarskjöld states, "The longest journey is the journey inward." 6. When I enter a room full of people I don’t know, I feel: Uncomfortable Apprehensive Quiet Shy Calm Outgoing Center of Attention Out of Control Wish I Wasn’t There How you feel about your Self and your perception of how others see you, can have an undue influence on your actions. On one side you may feel uncomfortable around others who welcome and are open to you. On the other hand, you may feel compelled to be dramatic and compensate for how you feel, with bravado. As you might understand, it’s easier to remain focused on how you feel when you are alone. Nevertheless, when you are with others, keep in mind that You define who you are and how you will act. In Healing Feelings . . . From Your Heart there is an exercise that is worth repeating here. "During your daily activities, see your Self sitting in an auditorium as part of an audience watching your Self in a play--noticing everything you are saying and doing. Then observe your reactions and your feelings while doing this. By observing from the unique vantage point of the audience, you are decidedly more objective, for subconsciously you are not as emotionally involved. . . . by Being the author rather than the actor. From this vantage point you can write your own lines and specify what takes place. You don’t have to re-act. All you simply do is shift your view point."
You can even look at your Self as the Director of your life. Focus on your feelings and Script appropriately, based on your view from the Director’s chair, instead of reacting to situations based on others’ plans or desires. Of course, once you have determined your course of action you still need to act--to respond--to move forward. So . . . just change your point of view by feeling comfortable around anyone or in any situation.
7. When I get angry, the thing I would most likely to do is: Scream Spout off with words Punch someone or something Go spend money on myself Go eat Destroy whatever is nearest to me Cry Start throwing things Go be by myself Kick something Retreat Confront the source Anger has many sources. We can be angry at others, our self, or even God. In fact, when we do become angry, the "root" is usually found within our self--something we did or didn’t do! Anger often represents our inability to step back and view a person or situation from the Director’s point of view. When we can develop a non-emotional viewpoint, or an infinite view, we will quickly realize that the importance of a single relationship or event does not define who we are--Our True Self.
When we don’t address our anger we get "stuck." We aren’t able to move forward and resolve our other feelings due to the anger energy standing in our way. Anger is often the symptom of numerous unresolved feelings. We may not even know why we are angry until we take time to reflect, "peel back the onion," dig to the "core" of those feelings, then resolve them. (Scripting)
For example, a mother may yell at her kids frequently without realizing that she’s doing so because she feels poorly in another aspect of her life. Spending quiet time getting in touch with the source of our feelings will improve our relationships and heal the core issues instead of just treating the symptoms.
Forgiveness is key to resolving feelings that lead to anger. Forgiveness of Self is a good place to start. Please refer to the chapters in Healing Feelings . . . From Your Heart for additional information on Accomplishing Forgiveness. Pay particular attention to Wild Bill Cody’s story. Seeing from a Director’s point of view, and Forgiving will hasten the resolution of any remaining anger and speedily expedite healing on the Journey to our True Self.
8. When something goes ‘wrong’ I usually: Want to blame something or someone else for it. Am willing to accept and "own" my responsibility in the matter. Just "blow if off" or ignore the situation. Say, "It doesn’t matter." Often feel very sorry about it. Blame is a convenient habit for those who do not accept their responsibility in life, or for those seeking to distract someone from their own issues. Please see the chapter titled "Who’s to Blame" in Healing Feelings . . . From Your Heart for an in-depth discussion on this topic. 9. Every time I think I’m going to move forward in my life, I seem to hit a brick wall called: Restricted Area Inadequate Unworthy Powerless Impossible Over Anxious Deficient Fear of the Future Fear of Success Fear of Failure Unrealistic I’m not enough Hopeless or Helpless Victim or Martyr Much like question #2, identification of the negative blocks we face is the first step in removing them and replacing them with positive feelings and energy. Keep in mind that it is not as difficult as some would have you believe. Simply identify the negative feelings, then, use the ‘Script’ to resolve the negative and replace it with the positive. 10. The area of my life in which I’d most like to see improvement is: Note: Rank the importance of each for you 1-6 with 1 being Most Important 1 2 3 4 5 6 Relationships 1 2 3 4 5 6 Physical Health 1 2 3 4 5 6 Financial Matters 1 2 3 4 5 6 Feelings of Self-worth 1 2 3 4 5 6 Spiritual Development 1 2 3 4 5 6 Understanding Who I Am Focus is needed to obtain an objective. By selecting which area of your life you would most like to improve and focus on first, you are able to hone in on the feelings and issues you face. To tear down the wall that has built up around your heart in one instant is not generally how healing works. As you remove the wall, brick by brick on your journey (each brick representing a feeling), you will re-discover your True Self. 11. If one word could describe how I would most like to feel on an on-going basis, it would be: Peaceful Joyful Loving/Loved Truly Forgiving Happy Powerful Grateful Allowing Connected Identifying the positive feelings we most desire allows us to ‘Script’ them into our lives. As the Director of your life you determine the outcome of each scene. This question may also reveal to you areas where you need to Journey inward to discover why those positive feelings are buried. 12. Evaluate your current lifestyle in these areas: No/Disagree Yes/Agree It is easy for me to share my feelings with others 1 2 3 4 5 I meet people easily 1 2 3 4 5 I am surrounded by people who care 1 2 3 4 5 I always have enough time 1 2 3 4 5 I seem to jump from crisis to crisis 1 2 3 4 5 I schedule time for myself 1 2 3 4 5 I schedule time to enjoy my family 1 2 3 4 5 I love the way I look 1 2 3 4 5 I feel energized and ready for each day 1 2 3 4 5 My body, mind and spirit are healthy and balanced 1 2 3 4 5 I give myself time to exercise 1 2 3 4 5 I don’t worry about if I can pay my bills 1 2 3 4 5 I always have enough business or sales 1 2 3 4 5 I live in my dream home 1 2 3 4 5 I have abundance in my life 1 2 3 4 5 Gauge where you are presently on these questions. Set aside time to write the Script to Direct your life to where you choose. As you progress along your Journey, return to these questions and see what amazing progress you have made. 13. If I were to list one word each for my 7 greatest weaknesses, those words are:
Identification of your perceived weaknesses will enhance your ability to see where you are currently in your life. As you re-discover your True Self on your Journey inward you will come to realize that your weaknesses are blessings. Your weaknesses will be the cause of your growth and learning. They can be the catalyst that opens the door and leads you to turning them into your strengths. You are unique and your challenges are uniquely designed to bring you to the truth of your Divine Self. You can choose to overcome your weaknesses. In his book, Prison to Praise, Merlin Carothers teaches that individuals, who praise God for their weaknesses, will receive enlightenment as to the purpose for those weaknesses. Growth then occurs, not always in the removal of the challenge but, in the way the weakness is perceived and reacted to. Our weaknesses are our greatest teachers. By developing infinite vision and humility we can grow from our weaknesses. 14. If I were to list one word each for my 7 greatest strengths, those words are:
We definitely benefit by recognizing our strengths and being humbly grateful for them, as they are what carry us through the challenges of life. God never gives any of us a "stacked deck"--one in which we have more weaknesses than strengths, or vise-versa. Therefore, it is extremely important, while in the process of learning from our weaknesses, that each of us move forward in life utilizing and exercising our strengths, and allowing them to be the rudder that keeps us on course. While doing this--utilizing our strengths--these strengths are not only a blessing to us individually, but to everyone who shares in our life. 15. If I only had 6 months to live I would: Enjoy
Stop Doing
This question will help you to quickly strip away the mundane and non-important things in your life. Treating each day as a precious gift allows us to focus on the feelings and relationships that make a difference. 16. I hope to gain/understand the following, on my Journey to discovering my true ‘Self’.
Go to your outcome! Go to the place where you have already gained what you hoped to gain. That is, see your Self and your life the way you’d like it, in the now. Be there. Be there by feeling how you know you’ll feel. Be there with what people are saying. Hear what they are saying. Be there with what you are doing, what you are smelling, what you are seeing, what you are hearing. Do this often, very often! Always engage your five senses while putting your Self there, as though it is happening NOW! Choose how you feel, how you are healing, and how you choose Be-ing. You may find it supportive to review chapter 16 in, Feelings Buried Alive Never Die . . ., where you are reminded that none of us are perfect, in the eternal sense of the word, and that by simply Be-ing your True Self, you can experience peace. The purpose of this Self Evaluation is not to cause you to over analyze your life. The purpose is to guide you on your individual Journey to the understanding that you are perfect just by Be-ing you. We trust that you have enjoyed taking this questionnaire as a first step on your journey to discovering your true self. We invite you to sign up for our newsletters so we can continue sharing valuable information to assist you on your way. The Healing Feelings Team.
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Edited by - Wavy Soul on 11/28/2007 02:04:03 |
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JohnD
USA
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Posted - 11/24/2007 : 08:34:18
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I would recommend The Pathway --- www.thepathway.org as the best possible method for overcoming any mindbody syndrome. Note that it is a non profit organization that has evolved through the years, and it is based on research at a major accredited university. I think the fact that it is a non profit organization gives it much more credibility than 99.9% of the other programs out.
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curingCFS
36 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2007 : 14:23:25
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Wavy Soul,
Are you using the "Script" now pretty regular? Do you think this is something to do in addition to the Sarno stuff? Anything to optimize this whole process is so much worth it. But I'm really new and starting out, so I'm not real confident about doing things not already used successfully by others. Can you give us your opinion on using it? Thanks,
Linda
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ralphyde
USA
307 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2007 : 19:39:41
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Wavy, You might want to fix the link you posted for the benefit of others by removing the comma after the .com as it doesn't work with it there. http://www.healingfeelings.com
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Wavy Soul
USA
779 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2007 : 02:05:42
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Changed the comma - thanks.
I have just played with the Script thing a couple of times. Then forgot about it until I came here with my shoulder pain waking me up in middle of night.
Maybe I should use it right now.
xx
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