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Mando1
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 Posted - 08/28/2007 : 17:03:20
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| So when i start feeling pain what should i do? I try to think psycologicly but it doesnt stop the pain. |
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pericakralj
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 17:57:18
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It dosent go away at the moment.You must work to get to that phase.You must ignore it,laught at it,etc.The most important is that you dont pay all your attention to it.
Keep going step by step.
But firtst of all you must rule out anything serious,it will be easier for you to belive its TMS,since nothing is wrong with you phisicly. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 17:57:21
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Mando, do you have one of the Sarno books? If not, you probably want to get one. Each one has some suggestions about what to do. You can also search this forum for information about journaling, laughing at the pain, talking to your brain, and other strategies people use to deal with the pain.
Sometimes the best thing to do is just ignore the pain as much as possible and continue with your life!
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Mando1
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 19:13:50
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Well the MRI showed a 10.0mm herniated disc.
Yes i do have one of the Sarno books. I have the healing back pain book.
Ive read it and i get it. It says to think about emotional issues, i do try to think about it but i dont get mad or anything. And sometimes i cant find anything that bothering me. But i do think about gettin Cauda Equita Syndrome alot. |
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Webdan65
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 20:27:08
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As long as you worry about getting something you can convince yourself you have it. Stop worrying about things that haven't happened and may never happen.
TMS pain doesn't stop immediately. Re-read the Sarno book over and over. The psychology chapter and the Treatment chapters in particular. It's not about intellectually getting it - it's about letting it sink in. Then....it's about doing the TMS work.
You're about to discover some really interesting things about yourself and how the brain can work with you or against you. Don't worry, it's not fatal or permanent. You say you can't find anything that is bothering you. We all feel that way - which may indicate that things are repressed deeper than you may think. Either that, or it's the TMS personalities that are causing your TMS. Again, reading the book again and again may shed some light on your exact situation.
One more point: You may not be able to find anything that makes you VERY angry or puts you in a rage. So look at the cumulative minor things that all add up to a mountain of crap buried in your subconscious. Daily pressures, stress, annoyances, frustrations, let downs, insecurities. It's often easier to find these than it may be for one big source of RAGE. Start here...you may be surprised at what you unravel.
Here's a post to take a look at. It provides a nice TMS summary:
http://tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3833
If you understand the basic premise of TMS - repressed emotions cause a "short circuit" of the autonomic nervous system which reduces blood flow to areas of your body causing pain. Sarno's theory is that it's a defense mechanism to keep you focused on pain so the negative emotions stay buried. The good news is that it doesn't cause any permanent damage.
Even better news is that we don't have to totally understand the fine technical (emotional/physiological) details on exactly HOW it works to eliminate our pain.
The key is to really dig deep and figure out what emotions were prevailing when the pain first started a couple years ago. Evaluate what is keeping you in pain currently. For many of us, it was a major life event. Perhaps changes in jobs, stress at work or with the family, a particularly difficult relationship problem. Self imposed pressures to do more, be better...never being satisfied with our own performance. Money problems, etc.
A few suggestions - similar to Sarno's daily reminders:
* Read and re-read the information when you get the book. (read the forum posts and the success stories until the book arrives.)
* Don't acknowledge any physical reason for the pain.
* Don't be afraid, you're not broken. Don't worry about what you may have. Don't worry about the herniation. Seriously - don't.
* Think Psychological. (what's going on emotionally)
* Talk to your brain. Tell it you know what's going on.
* Journal every day. Write down everything you can about past and present frustrations, pressures, disappointments, things that anger you. Childhood issues, etc. Self imposed pressures. We are often our own worst critics. Write until you can't write anymore. Then do it EVERY day until the pain stops. It's not easy, but it works.
* Resume physical activity when there is a significant reduction in pain. Doing too much too quickly can set you back.
* Finally it's worth repeating - no fear. You aren't broken.
Wrinse, lather, repeat.
And be patient. Despite understanding this conceptually - it may take a little time for resolution of your pain. Don't set any time limits for yourself for that just increases frustration levels.
You can do this....you've found the answer. Work the system.
Let us know if you have more questions or need help.
Dan
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 21:16:21
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If I were you I would get a copy of The Mindbody Prescription. The treatment plan in there (in the form of a letter from one of his patients) is a great basic one, and it goes into more detail on equivalents and non-back pain symptoms.
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Mando1
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 23:15:28
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thank you webdan. I will do that.cuz ive been reading the book and i understood it but not really. So im going to try and read it some more.
i still have one question though. how do you get rid of it? do you try not to feel anything or what? thats the only thing i dont understand. What to do with the repressed emotions? |
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Webdan65
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2007 : 06:27:50
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Sarno himself points out that you don't have to get rid of the negative emotions. You can't eliminate all the stress in your life and you can't change your personality. The goal should be to dig deep and bring things that have been buried in the subconscious TO the conscious level. Just the process of taking all these things we weren't consciously aware of and putting them into writing - (journaling) can be somewhat therapeutic. It's as if your brain doesn't need to keep all that stuff tucked away anymore since you got it out and onto paper.
As you re-read the book - see if you are able to see yourself in any of the descriptions. Any of the personality types, etc.
Dan |
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mamaboulet
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Posted - 08/29/2007 : 07:28:57
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I have a lot of success with visualization, since I tend to think in analogies, stories, and pictures.
Your pain is kinda like a troll under a bridge. You can't cross over to the cool side with the trees and green grass because you are afraid of the troll. Well, I've got a big damn stick and I'm going to go beat the crap out of that troll. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2007 : 09:52:51
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mamab, I love your posts! They are so vivid and positive.
Mando, I'm going to reiterate Dan's point here -- you do not have to necessarily stop repressing, or necessarily feel the emotions, or even necessarily figure out what they are, to get better. The key prescriptions are rejection of the physical explanation, acknowledgment that repressed emotions (especially rage) exist and are causing the physical pain, and deciding not to let the pain rule your life (gradually resuming normal activity).
Journaling can help you figure out what emotions you might have repressed, which can be great in acknowledging their reality. Once I had made my list of possible repressed emotions, I realized what a long list it was and had stronger belief that that big pile could cause pain.
Some people do ultimately decide that they will work on repressing less and accessing the repressed feelings (I am working on this). But I was physically well before I decided to do it; I just kept having emotional TMS equivalents (anxiety and depression) and figured it was time to get stuff a bit more sorted out.
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Baseball65
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2007 : 22:18:16
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It's not always necessary to find out what is bugging you to get respite from the symptoms...I believe it is merely the process of 'turning your mind to emotional problems,financial,marital,etc'
Our brains are so complex....there's too much overlapped and contradictory currents in there at any one time to actually sort it out...but the fact that you consciously turn your thoughts whenever you become aware of the pain is probably the most crucial therapeutic tool.
Be patient..even when you start doing this it takes a few days for the message to start to sink down deep.
BB65
The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. |
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