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kalo
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2007 : 15:57:27
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Hi All,
I took a break from the forum but I am back. As alot of you may have remember I had NUMBNESS on my right leg and thought I had some bad disease and it turned out that I had some pinched nerve. Well so the neurologist found. Not a problem. I blew it off as TMS and it quickly went away.
But how would Dr. Sarno view artherist. Let me explain I have NEVER had any joint pain in my life.
I am a guitarist and recently have been having pain in my metacarpal joint (index finger) that sucker is a little swollen.
I have been trying to perform a techinque which I think could of aggverated my pain.
I have NEVER been diagnosed with arthirtist (can't spell) so is this arthritist or TMS?
I know Sarno stance on arthrirtist is that Rherumatoid to be incurable, but what about medcaparl joint that got was induce from strain?
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2007 : 16:43:00
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sounds like a real minor injury due to trying something new. Due to the swelling, it sounds like real inflammation. IMO it's neither TMS or arthritis. Stop that new technique for a month and see what happens perhaps? |
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kalo
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2007 : 19:41:41
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Thanks for the reply skizzik!
I am going to stop doing what it is that is swollen the joint up and take some Ibuprofen and see what happens!!! |
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HellNY
130 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2007 : 20:31:07
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I suspect there are many mah y people with arthritic joints and no pain. Even though Sarno has said Arthritis is separate, if you use the same arguments he uses for why hernaited disks dotn cause pain, then perhaps arthritis (teh actual joint effects) doesnt either. |
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kalo
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2007 : 21:19:04
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Yeah, but to be honest my joint is swollen on the metacarpal joint. Has anyone every had arthritist like symptons and it only be TMS? |
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n/a
374 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2007 : 03:34:13
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Hi Kalo
I have arthritis in my left index finger - I'm left handed, my middle finger on that hand was badly broken in childhood and does less work than it would have otherwise done - so the index finger has had to compensate for it. Last year it became very painful and slightly swollen on the knuckle joint. It's arthritis, not TMS.
How can I be so sure? Well, xrays confirmed it, but more important - it swelled up some more and is now quite misshapen, but the good news is, it has been painless since then and I have full use of it - that happens a lot, apparently.
Sounds kind of similar to what you describe. I don't have arthritis anywhere else either.
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kalo
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2007 : 09:59:01
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I thought that Dr. Sarno stated that Arthritis is TMS equivalant. I am not talking Rheumatoid, I am talking just regular arthritis?
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2007 : 10:55:37
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quote: Originally posted by kalo
I thought that Dr. Sarno stated that Arthritis is TMS equivalant. I am not talking Rheumatoid, I am talking just regular arthritis?
yeah, it still seems like such a grey area. I suppose that w/ advancing of arthritis we simply cannot do the same things for the duration/intensity we used to, but as far as quality of life we should be pain free.
Sarno I would think lives a pain free life at 83, and is happy w/ his quality of life, however, I think he would laugh at the notion of going thru boot camp again like he did as a youngin. |
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westcoastram
97 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2007 : 12:25:05
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I had a lot of arthritic issues from bone on bone stuff before I had my main pain symptoms that I and Dr. Schecter diagnosed as TMS. Now, even the arthritic issues are gone. I still have bone on bone (particularly in the shoulder) but I do shoulder presses and any number of things at the gym now with no problem. |
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kalo
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2007 : 12:33:23
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westcoastram,
So you say you had arthritis, but when you saw Dr. Schecter he told you it was mostly TMS?
I am confused? |
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westcoastram
97 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2007 : 21:50:34
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Eh, I should have been clearer. I was told I had arthritis in my shoulder many years ago. I just stayed away from certain activities after that.
Years later, I developed muscular pain in my pec, leg, and forearms that was diagnosed as any number of things until I found TMS. My pec, leg and forearm pain went away with the TMS diagnosis and the journaling I did.
I then decided to try the TMS thought process out on my arthritic pain in my shoulder, a much older problem. It went away when I applied the same thought process to it too.
Basically, I think the arthritis I was diagnosed with was just TMS. |
Edited by - westcoastram on 08/12/2007 21:53:15 |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
330 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2007 : 03:41:38
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My brother recently went through a hip resurfacing op for arthritis of his hip. In fact the xray report said only 'minor degenerative changes' but as he was in great pain and had always had a physical job involving walking up and down hills he was convinced it was OA and had the op. I was amazed, when I visited him in hospital, that others in having the same op were only early 40s (and not olympic athletes by the look of them)- it seems surprising that they can need an op at such a young age. Anyway my brother was under lots of stresses over the last couple of years - and still is - especially as the op did not go quite as it should - surgeon had probs putting in the new joint surface but as new bone was knitting around it didn't want to reoperate - or - is my brother TMSd to an extreme level and only fixing his other life problems will fix his hip. I just don't know - time will tell. |
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westcoastram
97 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2007 : 13:13:44
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Well, let me just add this.
I'm only 29. I've played a good deal of sports, separated my AC joint (no cartilage left) and tore some cartilage in my other shoulder and I had arthritic pain in each... this was all before my big TMS experience. I was still able to do some things with my shoulders but not others. When I discovered TMS (for other problems besides the arthritis) I applied the same techniques to my arthritic shoulders and they got better. For what it's worth. |
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kalo
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2007 : 13:21:45
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Thanks for the replies both Scottydog, & Westernccoastram,
This kind of scares me because my joint look a little swollen...I just don't want to stop playing guitar. It's my life...
Thanks again! |
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westcoastram
97 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2007 : 14:59:52
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Ice the joint for a day. Take two days off. And head back to it. If it's still an issue, I'd have to guess it's TMS. There's really no reason for a real injury "say a bone bruise" shouldn't really heal up in that time. |
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