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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  19:32:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you know there are 7 common crutches that can keep you in pain despite all their journaling and mental work? Read about them in "Pain Free For Life" by Dr. Scott Brady. I estimate that everyone on this message board leaning on at least one of these crutches.

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Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  21:00:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shawnsmith, can you elaborate?
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Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  21:19:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way I looked the book up on Amazon and checked out reviews.

One said it had a God-focus with a Christian/protestant bent. Did you find this to be the case?
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stanfr

USA
268 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  03:06:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sky; yes he makes it clear he feels a spiritual component is important, and one can infer from some of the passages that there is a Christian 'bent' to it, but he makes it very clear that these personal views are not necessary for recovery, and i personally did not feel this aspect of the book 'got in the way' of any of the other advice. In other words, if you share his faith it will only make you like the book more, if you don't i don't think it detracts anything.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  06:10:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with stanfr, the Christian / spirituality element did not interfere with his book in the least, and I am not a Christian myself nor ever plan to be one either. He makes it clear that if you are not a spiritual person at all you can still benefit from his book. A lot more practical steps are offered which complement Sarno- his medical mentor.

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Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." It's all you need to know in order to recover.

Edited by - shawnsmith on 07/23/2007 07:36:05
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Penny

USA
364 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  10:13:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sky

One said it had a God-focus with a Christian/protestant bent. Did you find this to be the case?


Here is a link to a good discussion on the merits of _Pain-Free for Life_ http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2363 from last year when it came out.

>|< Penny
"Oz never did give nothing to the Tinman that he didn't already have."
song lyric, America
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JohnD

USA
371 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  12:53:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shawn,

Since you estimate that everyone on this board is leaning on at least one crutch, can you share with us what crutch(es) you are leaning on?

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Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  12:58:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yea that was the other thing I was looking for...
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  14:41:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JohnD

Shawn,

Since you estimate that everyone on this board is leaning on at least one crutch, can you share with us what crutch(es) you are leaning on?





It is better to buy the book as it provides more details. Honest, it is worth the investment.

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Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." It's all you need to know in order to recover.
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Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  14:52:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shawn I had a feeling you might be stingy with this information...jk

would it kill you to briefly outline the points? Good chance I do buy the book, but why not share a little of what you learned?
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  15:06:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, it would kill me and I don't have time to summarize the whole chapter. I hope you don't want that for me. The stingy one is the one who won't buy the book:)

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Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." It's all you need to know in order to recover.

Edited by - shawnsmith on 07/23/2007 15:08:14
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JohnD

USA
371 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  15:46:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can't you just share one of the crutches that you use, since you thought that everyone here has one?
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armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  18:09:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shawn, if I didn't know better I'd suspect you of shilling for Brady with your reluctance to share this stuff. It's a bit silly to bring this up and refuse to provide any further information.

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Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  18:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But I guess we'll let you do what you do. No worries. I appreciate all your posts and contributions to the forum. I'll almost certainly buy the book anyway. Just have to get through one or two others first...
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altherunner

Canada
511 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  19:26:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I enjoyed this book - I don't remember about the crutches. I have lent it to my neighbour, she is training for a triathalon, and having tms symptoms. I'll get it back to look those up, and post again.
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altherunner

Canada
511 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  19:53:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My neighbour gave up on the book because of the religious ovetones.
The 7 crutches are: 1-Body medicine crutch 2- lack of confidence crutch 3- medication crutch 4- fear crutch 5- mental diversions crutch 6-emotional blindness crutch 7-untreated depression crutch
I am going to re-read this book, it's been a year or so. Dr. Brady has interesting insights, I believe they compliment Dr. Sarno's work.
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armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  20:23:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm guessing "mental diversions" is a big one on this board.

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JohnD

USA
371 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  11:11:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Al
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Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  11:17:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ditto, and thanks to shawnsmith for sharing the book initially. i'm looking forward to checking it out
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  12:18:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by armchairlinguist

Shawn, if I didn't know better I'd suspect you of shilling for Brady with your reluctance to share this stuff. It's a bit silly to bring this up and refuse to provide any further information.

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Is true?
Is it really true?
How do you feel when you think that thought?

For those who give up on Brady's because of religious overtones he clearly states in his book that one need not be religious or spiritual at all to benefit from his book. I agree with that statement.



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Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." It's all you need to know in order to recover.
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altherunner

Canada
511 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  13:48:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps not being able to accept a mindbody diagnosis may have been
the reason my neighbour gave up on the book, more than the religion.
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