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skizzik
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 Posted - 06/16/2007 : 07:32:33
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going 100% psychological, if your'e putting everything into it, can ya "fake it till ya make it" or is the unconcious too smart for that?
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Shary
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 09:58:29
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| I don't think the subconscious, or Inner Child, is very smart at all. As Sarno and others suggest, I think it's very primitive and self-serving, possibly a vestige left over from our caveman days. Case in point, I'm finding that on the one hand, Fred Amir's suggestions seem pretty ridiculous (see my post under You're the One in Control, Not the Pain). On the other hand, his techniques are showing promise, silly or not. Maybe the divided mind really is divided, and one side has no clue what the other side is up to. |
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 10:24:10
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thanx shary, I like the way you think. Yes, it's an inner child. That would have to make us smarter for sure. |
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n/a
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Posted - 06/17/2007 : 15:14:18
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I think you can fake it till you make it, Skizzik, but I don't think it's really faking it in the accepted sense of the word - it's more a conditioning process that stops the terrible cycle of pain - fear - escalating pain, that becomes the norm in the lives of people who suffer from TMS.
One of the things that got my recovery underway was mastering the ability to acknowledge the first twinge of pain and instead of reacting with fear, I'd tell myself every time that there was nothing structurally wrong and that I was doing just fine. It took a long time, but I certainly outsmarted my unconscious in the end.
Another bit of fakery I went in for - I made a conscious decision to completely stop complaining about my sore back to those around me. If anyone enquired, I told them I wasn't in any pain. In the end it became the truth anyway.
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 08:28:12
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Anne makes great points.
Conditioning is perhaps the most important factor in TMS. If you do nothing else, strive to reverse the bad habits that have developed over your entire lifetime.
When feeling pain, instead of worrying whether or not it will escalate, running to the massage therapist or chiropractor, and obsessing about it, laugh it off. Dismiss it. Tell yourself, "OK, this must be a message that I'm repressing emotions." Then try to think about what you might be repressing.
Do this over and over and over, every time. You are creating a new habit, a new conditioned response, a new way of thinking about and reacting to the pain. Even if it still hurts, you do not let the pain get the best of you. You ignore it, don't fear it, and go about your life.
In the long term, the pain will get less and less, and most importantly, it will not occupy your thoughts or generate fear. |
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miehnesor
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 11:27:04
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If you think of the unconscious as an inner child the "fake it till you make it" is also a great way to approach the connection with the child. When you start you might feel kind of silly like this is without value and you don't see any immediate payoff. This was true for me and i believe true for everyone else who employs this approach. But over time if you keep working on it then the unconscious or inner child begins to trust that the powerful adult is paying attention and you start to get some cooperation.
I was able to help my wife quickly get over an anxiety attach just recently that was keeping her from sleeping for hours. It worked like magic just using some of the techniques that I use for myself. |
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Penny
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 17:29:01
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Originally posted by miehnesor
I was able to help my wife quickly get over an anxiety attach just recently that was keeping her from sleeping for hours. It worked like magic just using some of the techniques that I use for myself.
Please share what you did ... what techniques?
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"Oz never did give nothing to the Tinman that he didn't already have."
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miehnesor
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 21:42:27
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Penny- My wife was preparing for a seminar that required a plane trip and several days away from our son. She had some separation anxiety that really has it's roots in infancy and the trauma she sustained at that time. Since I know her history and she has seen the inner child stuff work for me she was very accepting of the idea. I simply told her why she was having the anxiety and that she needed to make a connection with her inner child. I told her some affirmations she should say to the child to comfort the child inside such as: I know you are scared but i'm going to be with you, you are not alone, you are going to make it. Then I told her to just hold the inner child.
So it's really affirmations that are pertinent to the particular person's history and said in a loving, nurturing tone that touches the child and provides inner comfort. Kind of like how you would nurture a real child.
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Stryder
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fake it till ya make it?
