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LuvtoSew
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 Posted - 06/11/2007 : 09:53:58
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How many of us smoke. I do. I should quit!!! I wonder if that would help with some of this pain.
Oh since journaling, my tmj pain is still there but not I have tailbone pain. Man I don't want to get worst than better.
Not happy with the tailbone pain. Makes it hard to sit ya know, drive and everything. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 12:45:15
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Smoking has nothing to do with your pain, but why you smoke may have a lot to do with your pain. Think about it.
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Littlebird
USA
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 13:39:15
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Smoking does cause reduced oxygen by restricting blood flow, but I don't know if that would add to the effect of what the brain may be doing with blood flow in TMS. I read an article once by a surgeon who reattaches severed limbs and fingers, and he said that if smokers had even one cigarette after the surgery, typically the reattached limb would then die and have to be removed again, because the lack of oxygen due to the reduced blood flow interfered so much with the healing. He found it really sad that the addiction could be so strong that people would risk losing the limb, or perhaps just be in denial that it could happen with one cigarette.
What Shawn says is a good point--the reason a person smokes may be the thing that's most related to their pain. Perhaps not in each smoker's case, but at east for some.
Either way, you'll surely be better off if you can manage to beat that addiction. Wish you well in your efforts to stop! |
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Penny
USA
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 16:01:21
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I think smoking, overeating, and over-exercising are all manifestations of repressive behaviours. I smoked for 7 years and quit about 12 years ago. After I quit, I started mindless eating and gained 30 lbs.
It's funny (or not), but when I decided to get physically more active and lose my weight, I became fanatical about what I ate, and how much exercise I did each day. I dropped the weight. My body was physically healthier, BUT that's when my TMS kicked in full throttle.
Through my evolving habits I've been chasing myself and denying my emotions for years.
I have a theory about obsessive behaviours or habits, and for me, these habits/patterns seemed to serve me so that I wasn't feeling negative emotions. I'd smoke instead of feeling boredom. Then I'd eat instead of feeling lonely. Before my health kick, I used to profess that my life would be perfect if I lost 30lbs. Then I lost the weight and realized my life was still NOT perfect.
I am grateful to my pain problems. It is b/c of TMS work that I am more alive and present and REAL with people. I have a lot of emotional discomfort, but I no longer overeat, smoke, obsess over calories, or over excercise. I'm giving myself the gift of accepting my limitations as a human and exploring the entire menu of human emotions.
LuvtoSew, I hazard to guess that your smoking is a distraction from feeling some unpleasant emotion. If you really want to quit, start by trying consciously to replace the behaviour with something else less harmful. I used to blow bubbles and eat altoids (and cheeseburgers and fries ... I don't suggest the latter  ). When people at work went out for smoke breaks, I'd grab my liquid bubbles. It takes 21 days to make or break a habit. Stick through the demons, journal about what you feel when you don't smoke and you want to. It is very hard to do, but NOT impossible. You have EVERYTHING to gain by quitting and everything to lose by continuing.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do! If you are going to continue smoking, make a decision to continue. Living in "shoulds" stinks.
>|< Penny
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 19:58:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Penny
I think smoking, overeating, and over-exercising are all manifestations of repressive behaviours.
Bingo Penny, I could not have said it better myself. Obsession with sex is another repressive behaviour.
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LuvtoSew
USA
327 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 05:04:07
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Yes I can see where smoking is a distraction, I had quit but when I got tmj symptoms 2 years ago I restarted. I figured if I can't eat I may as well smoke. I do need to quit, but don't need to add more stress to my life right now with this tmj stuff.
I know its so bad for the circulation tho.
Actually since journaling, like Penny said, I am realizing so much about my growing up years that really upset me. I think its helping me getting in touch with these feeling that I have always just choose to ignore and just never really wanted to remember.
I just always said I had a happy childhood but now I'm realizing I really didn't, it wasn't awful , but just wasn't the best in a lot of areas. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 12:41:49
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Originally posted by LuvtoSew
Yes I can see where smoking is a distraction, I had quit but when I got tmj symptoms 2 years ago I restarted.
Wow, that is an AHA revelation and worth pondering over. TMJ pain and then resumption of smoking. Hmmmmmmm.....
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LuvtoSew
USA
327 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 13:25:17
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shawnsmith- what do you think that means?
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 13:45:31
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What do you think it means?
I think it means that you exhibit patterns of emotional repression that manifests in your involvment in destructive activities, such as smoking. The fact that the pain and your resumption of smoking are closely linked speaks volumes. The pain is driving back the surfacing of unconscious emotions into you conscious awareness, and the smoking is further aiding this emotional repression. I do the same thing when I have an intensification of pain symptoms - although not through smoking - but excessive eating and obession with sex. Link the pain and the smoking and you will have a clue into how you are wired to repress some nasty emotion that you do not want to deal with.
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Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." It's all you need to know in order to recover. |
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LuvtoSew
USA
327 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 15:00:24
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Oh ok, kinda like a trade off.  |
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