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armchairlinguist
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 Posted - 06/05/2007 : 15:18:24
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To clarify #2, I need to know why my subconscious mind would pick my particular leg pain symptoms.
May I ask why you didn't dare express anger or fear to your mother as an infant/toddler? I thought at that stage a child is very open, and expresses everything purely and honestly. That is how children learn and get what they need. But I suppose I grew up in a safe, loving home. I can't imagine that I was afraid to express those types of feelings as a child. (I'm not saying you are wrong at all--I'm just saying that I've never considered that a child so young might be capable of consciously holding back emotions.)
#2: Because they are effective in distracting you. Other than that the particular symptom is mostly meaningless.
As for the second, children are very perceptive and will learn not to express feelings to their caregivers that cause consistent negative reactions, because expressing those feelings does not get them what they need but gets them in trouble. As miehsnor mentioned, this is developed in detail in The Drama of the Gifted Child by Alice Miller. The book is not about "smart" kids but about about kids with acute emotional perception. At first a child may express all feelings, but very quickly we learn what our caretakers consider acceptable and what they don't, and we start to repress our feelings. It's not done consciously -- that's why it's repression. We ourselves repress the emotions unconsciously, often not even aware we feel them, because we have learned we "should not" experience them. It is not done with the logical mind, it just happens from our (usually even pre-verbal) understanding of the situation.
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miehnesor
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Posted - 06/05/2007 : 15:53:34
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| Thanks ACL for that post. I think most TMS'ers suffer, at least at the beginning of their treatment, to a healthy dose of delusional thinking wrt their childhood. If you have TMS you need to take a more critical look at these source figures and question just how idyllic it actually was especially wrt allowing the full spectrum of childhood emotions. |
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Penny
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Posted - 06/07/2007 : 13:53:12
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Originally posted by spiritcloud
I like what you said about the legs being the most believable place for my mind to create pain. That makes the most sense so far. The thing that still causes me to doubt that my leg problems are TMS is the fact that several other male relatives have identical symptoms--relatives I have rarely been around, and I didn't know any of them had these symptoms until quite recently.
Again ... commonsense is NOT going to provide an answer for you. Sorry, I wish I could tell you otherwise, but that's the truth about TMS.
I think the fact that you and some family members have similar physical manifestations is ONLY because you all have human bodies; perhaps there is a genetic tendency for TMS to manifest similarly--meaning your brains are genetically coded for pain to present in the same areas--who knows, I guess that's possible?! But I still don't think you have a physical problem. It's TMS ... for them AND for you.
If you search the board on leg pain, you will find MANY people who you are not related to have experienced intense pain probs in their legs. You are human :O) Don't be surprised if in a few weeks the pain moves somewhere else. That has been a lot of our experiences too (sx imperative).
Until you start ignoring your pain and completely believing in your subconscious's distraction tactics, I strongly doubt your pain will stop. Step one is to ignore the pain and press on and do what you want to do. For me, in case of my CTS this meant typing thru physical agony. It was AWFUL, but doable. As days passed, the pain stopped as I had retrained my brain that I wasn't going to cowtow to it's ridiculous tactics.
Keep on fighting, but you have to change your beliefs about commonsense, as you ain't gonna get any. Sorry (((((((SpiritCloud))))))).
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Health Problems Since Infancy
