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LuvtoSew

USA
327 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2007 :  06:15:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think most people here have self dx themselves. For those that have did you have an incident that caused you to have pain (an event) or did you just develope it.

Also did you have xrays and mris and other medical tests.

Thanks.

shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2007 :  06:32:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes LuvtoSew, this is indeed the case with most of us including myself. You must first rule out any serious malady and then you are in a position to make the dx on your own. This may constitute a different set of challenges for some as they have never go the dx from a TMS doc and may make them doubt at times. But the fact that many have recovered without ever seeing a TMS doctor is testimony that, in most cases, it is not necessary to get a dx from a TMS doc.

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LuvtoSew

USA
327 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2007 :  06:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, most of my pain is from an event, two years ago I was pain free and one thing lead to another, just the stress of all this I'm sure has made me so anxious that everything is amplified.

I did have a mir of the neck due to tight muscles in the neck and showed bulges and ddd and my doc sent me to an osteopath for several treatment now has left me with back and neck pain which I didn't have as much before seeing her. It seems everything is worst now.

I just fear she did damage to me. I should of known better but sometiems you just have to trust your doctors.
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sonora sky

USA
181 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2007 :  08:27:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LuvtoSew

most of my pain is from an event, two years ago I was pain free and one thing lead to another, just the stress of all this I'm sure has made me so anxious that everything is amplified.



This is one of the biggest misconceptions about chronic pain, that it is somehow the long-term result of an injury. "Events" or one-time injuries do occur. They may be an accute (at-that-time) source of pain. But once the body heals from that injury, after a number of days or a few weeks at most, there is no reason for the pain to continue. This chronic pain is TMS. Sneaky as it is, it (your mind) has chosen a convenient location--one you would never suspect, because you did once have a "real" injury there. And we continue to believe this falsity because it does have a logic to it--something concrete that we can keep pointing to ("I'm still having pain from that car accident I was in a few years ago..."), rather than turning the focus inward and beginning an exploration to find the psychological roots of the pain.

In other cases, there is an "event," but no real injury is involved. For example, one might bend over to pick up a pencil from the floor, and BAM!, it "feels" like their back "went out." Sarno says that no simple movement such as this could create an injury. This is simply TMS trying to convince you of the absurd. Still, many people fall for it.

From all of your recent posts, it seems like the biggest hurdle for you will be to believe in your heart of hearts that your pains are not physical in origin but psychological. I think you mentioned that you have been journaling, which is great. You might find Dr. Schechter's workbook (http://www.mindbodymedicine.com/) helpful because it guides you step-by-step through exploring and finally refuting the possible physical origins of your pain and towards thinking psychological.

Good luck,
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