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UK james

United Kingdom
37 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2007 :  10:43:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shawnsmith - are you on commission for shecketerr??

This website right here has all the vaulable tools people need - why are you trying to D I L U T E things my diverting people to a new site which is so appallingly designed.

Do you get money per hit or per success story????

Get a real job and maybe your TMS will clear up.

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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2007 :  10:46:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would be more disposed to contributing to whatever it is that is being created, if I it were better explained. Me, being an involuntary Luddite, it's not clear to me what is going on here.

I've seen the Wikipedia and assume it's going to be posted there. I would be more inclined to participate if there was some connection HERE by those asking for our "successtories". Why do we have to re-invent the wheel?

As far as I know the TMSHelp Board is the most active site for the TMS lay person. On occassion we have had contributions by TMS doctors such as Dr. Fatteh, and now DrZiggles, and they are always appreciated for setting us straight on the medical end of TMS.

If, the goal is to spread the word of TMS, and answer the publics' questions, we have been doing that here for quite a time, gratis, thanks to the board's founder Austin Gary and now Dave. If the "cure" for TMS is "knowledge penicilin", then, those asking for our input, can help people right here, otherwise TMS info over the internet will become further Balkanized.

Can anyone explain to me what this is all about?

Tahnks
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2007 :  10:53:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
P.S.

I wasn't piling on. I just saw UKJames's post and was typing mine while he was too.

I do believe Shawn's motivations are pure and helpful in this, I am just not clear on how it works along with my other previous comments.

Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2007 :  18:44:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Background information on David Schechter, MD who is heading up this project in collaboration with Don Dubin MFCC, and Arthur Smith PhD.

http://www.mindbodymedicine.com/6tms.html



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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2007 :  18:48:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by UK james

Shawnsmith - are you on commission for shecketerr??

This website right here has all the vaulable tools people need - why are you trying to D I L U T E things my diverting people to a new site which is so appallingly designed.

Do you get money per hit or per success story????

Get a real job and maybe your TMS will clear up.





I have never met Dr. Schechter, nor do I get any money for him nor ever will. I am merely promoting his work. Many on this board are his patients. The design of the website has nothing to do with the discussion, and I don't quite understand the hostile reaction. See info on Dr. Schechter at http://www.mindbodymedicine.com/6tms.html
He is a well known TMS practioner who has studied under Dr. Sarno and promotes Dr. Sarno in all of his work and research....



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Shary

147 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  08:47:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shawn,
Sorry for badmouthing something you obviously believe in. These doctors may indeed have the best motives in the world. However, like many people, I'm suspicious of anyone who wants to own something that belongs to someone else (information, in this case) but doesn't want to pay for it. Their entire approach is a turnoff,
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armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  12:13:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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One person had a bad experience with him- due mostly to projecting TMS related rage on him- and now he is a bad guy.


His "bad experience" was that Schechter missed his accurate medical diagnosis, which left him in permanent pain and with skeletal deformation. You'd be pissed too. I think it's extremely rude of you to imply that he is projecting TMS anger when there is plenty of legitimate reason for him to be angry.

I don't think Schechter is a bad guy or bad doctor, and I don't think people around here characterize him as such either. It is right that people should know that he has made a mistake (as doctors sometimes do, being human). I think you are projecting, frankly, because you have decided you like this project and want to defend every aspect of it.

We all have our own ways of getting the word out. You like the Wiki project. I post my story on my own website (and license it to be freely shared with attribution) and tell people by word-of-mouth.

I am not complaining about doctors not knowing about TMS either. Yes, I hope that in time more people and more doctors will know about it. But Sarno has said himself that much of the problem is not lack of information but lack of psychological readiness for the information. I can attest that I was told about TMS right when I first got RSI and I completely ignored the information. I can also attest that I've told four people with pain about TMS and all of them were resistant -- I would class one as skeptical, two as not believing at all, and one as resistant but ultimately accepting. Being willing is a much bigger hurdle than being aware.

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westcoastram

97 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2007 :  12:45:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I, myself, have seen Schechter and talked with Don Dubin.

Schechter may not be as dogmatic as Sarno nor as paternal, but he truly seeks to help people with TMS. No doctor, specifically, no TMS doctor is infallible when the diagnosis requires both analytic skills and a good deal of intuition and insight into the human condition. I don't think we should dismiss him for missing diagnoses (although the outcomes were negative) - that alone, shouldn't refute all the good work he's done. It's to his detriment that we aren't able to easily acquire second opinions on TMS as easily as we could another illness.

Additionally, I am aware that Schechter has been constantly frustrated by the medical community in LA where he has been refused research funding for TMS time and time again. Perhaps this site could eventually help him in that endeavor.

I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to post their success on the website except for the imposition of time and the dredging up of those old feelings (which is no small thing).

I, for one, plan on writing my story down once I have a moment.
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