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shawnsmith
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 Posted - 05/06/2007 : 18:44:48
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This is a WIKI that we have designed to be written by those who have successfully utilized the TMS diagnosis and treatment for relief of their pain. This site is administered by David Schechter, MD, Don Dubin MFCC, and Arthur Smith PhD; TMS practitioners and researchers.
see: http://tmsbackpain.wetpaint.com/
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jst
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 10:39:43
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I find it mildly troubling that the site advertises for ambien, when the anxiety that lead to sleeplessness and other causes are very likely TMS equivalents!!
Also, I get the sense this site is designed to be a repository of TMS success stories? In my casual browsing I haven't really figured out where to find these stories or how to add our own. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 20:07:26
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It is those google ads on the side which they cannot help. Just ignore them. Dr. Schechter trained directly under Dr. Sarno and is a sound TMS practioner.
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UK james
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 14:30:17
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This looks like a really poor quality website - whoever has put it together needs to get a new vocation.
What is the point of it???? |
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sonora sky
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 15:16:41
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Originally posted by jst
In my casual browsing I haven't really figured out where to find these stories or how to add our own.
I'm not sure if you are speaking of this site (TMSHelp Forum) or that one. To find success stories on this site, you can search "successstory" (no space between the two words) using the search feature. I think this tagging only got started recently, so there may not be too many yet.
If you were speaking of the other site, just ignore this!
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2007 : 19:59:48
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http://tmsbackpain.wetpaint.com/
It is run by David Schechter, MD, Don Dubin MFCC, and Arthur Smith PhD. They are tyring to compile success stories for publication. Not one person responded from this forum. Sigh!
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wrldtrv
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 21:31:31
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 05:50:02
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Yes, one negative comment out of hundreds of patients. That's preety amazing. He trained directly under Dr. Sarno although, like almost all other TMS pracitoners, he modifies his programme a bit to suit his needs. Overall though, he is a Sarno purist. He works closely with Don Dubin, and many on this board have had phone sessions with Don including myself.
It baffles my my mind why people don't want to share thier stories for publication, but that is their choice.
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 08:58:25
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We have already written our SuccessStories here. And mine is also on my website. I have no interest in assigning the authors of that site any rights to it, as they require in order to post:
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Although Wetpaint does not claim ownership of Submissions that its users post, by posting or submitting Submissions to the Site, you automatically grant and represent and warrant that you have the right to grant to Wetpaint an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, fully paid, royalty-free, worldwide license to use, copy, perform, modify, adapt, publish, display, translate, and distribute said Submissions and to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works said Submissions and to grant and authorize sublicenses (through multiple tiers) of the foregoing, including as set forth in Paragraph 6 below. Furthermore, by posting Submissions to the Site, as part of the Collective Content, you automatically grant Wetpaint all rights necessary to prohibit any subsequent prohibited aggregation, display, copying, duplication, reproduction, or exploitation of the Collective Content by any party for any purpose.
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 10:24:33
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That is a nice attitude to have armchairlinguist, but don't complain later about the word on TMS not getting out when people are investing their lives in researching it yet people fail to cooperate.
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wrldtrv
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 23:08:45
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| Now I remember what it was about Dr Schechter. Do a search on "cautionary tale" for the details. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2007 : 07:34:46
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why are people ragging on him when hen is a Sarno devotist? He actually worked with Dr. Sarno in the research of Healing Back Pain. One person had a bad experience with him- due mostly to projecting TMS related rage on him- and now he is a bad guy. People on this board are being unfair and irrational with regards to this issue.
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Shary
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 08:26:49
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I don't consider myself a success story just yet. I am a lot better but still have days that aren't great. I am finally wrapping up a case of insurance fraud that I've been involved in. Thursday the company offered me several options toward making me whole, and I was elated that they are very generous options. So why did I have such a downturn with my TMS yesterday? I've decided it was because I was really worried about this but trying to convince myself I wasn't worried. (Clearly anxiety repression!) It took a while for my TMS gremlin to process the good news, but I'm much better today.
Shawn, regarding Schechter's website, I tend to agree with ACL. I've already posted considerable info regarding my battle with TMS on this website, which is readily available to anyone looking for help. I don't know anything about Schechter and company and I'm not interested in giving them the right to make money from my personal experiences. I also think you're a little out of line in chastising people for being reluctant to hop on this somewhat questionable bandwagon |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 08:48:49
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Originally posted by Shary
Thursday the company offered me several options toward making me whole, and I was elated that they are very generous options. So why did I have such a downturn with my TMS yesterday? I've decided it was because I was really worried about this but trying to convince myself I wasn't worried. (Clearly anxiety repression!) It took a while for my TMS gremlin to process the good news, but I'm much better today.
Page 26 Dr. Sarno's, The Mindbody Prescription:
"Even happy events...can result in inner turmoil, pressure and anger."
Page 28,
"Both positive and negative stress generate umconscious anger, whether or not one is consciously angry."
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Shary
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 09:43:44
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| Thanks, TT. For sure I've been angry at myself for getting conned by an insurance/investment agent I had long considered to be a friend. My case is small potatoes compared to some of the people who were defrauded. Even so, deep down inside I'm probably just as angry as they are that this guy abused my trust. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2007 : 10:35:32
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Dr. Schecter's motivation is not making money as he does fine with his medical practice in Beverly Hills. In fact, supporting TMS theory can be a money loser and that is why many docs avoid it like the plague. He is trying to establish the scienfitic validity of TMS for those who claim Dr. Sarno's idead do not have scienfitic validity. I will continue to be critical of those who moan on about no doctor's accepting TMS and then when one sticks his neck out on the line they crap all over him. Shameless, utterly shameless.
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Shary
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 12:06:07
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| Shawn, what can Schechter possibly say in his book that Sarno hasn't already said? And what makes you think he can establish scientific validity when, after 20-some years, Sarno couldn't do so? Moreover, who cares? People who eventually find themselves traveling the road to Sarno-ization do so because nothing else has worked. They also eventually realize they can effect a cure for their TMS without either medical help or scientific validity...as you yourself have frequently stated on this forum. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2007 : 14:29:49
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And your point Shary?
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Shary
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 15:57:42
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| My point is that even assuming it could be established, which it probably can't, scientific validity is completely unnecessary to curing oneself of TMS. |
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carbar
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 17:49:43
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I wonder if people's hesitation towards this site has to do with the design.
It looks an awful lot like the kind of site that pops up in your browser because of spam and ad links. Maybe Schecter should look into finding a designer to spruce it up so it looks a little more benign. It's sort of threatening and suspicious looking...
I think we all have a lot of unconscious rage about the inconvieniences of web surfing...
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Shary
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 07:55:13
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I probably have a lot of unconscious rage toward doctors, with good reason.
In any case, looking for scientific validity regarding something as elusive as the human mind is going to be like looking for that needle in the haystack, something Schechter, Dubin and Smith undoubtedly already know. Hence we arrive at the real motive: a copycat publication that makes money in spite of itself. |
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Looking for TMS success stories for publication
