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art

1903 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  10:35:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Come on Karen! In the first post(way back when), you put up your web site address and asked if anyone knew someone that was looking for art to go to your site. "

This actually squares with my memory, but Karen insisted she never tried to sell art on this forum and I was willing to take her word for that...You know what? Bottom line, I don't really care much either despite my being the one to raise the issue this time..I briefly considered going back through old posts, but for one thing they can be edited by the author, and for another, as I said, I don't really care enough to go through that...

I do think it's important to be honest however..If Karen did do this, then that would seem to indicate a willingness on her part to throw me under the bus in order to protect herself, which doesn't strike me as very humane...

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redskater

USA
81 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  11:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It didn't take much looking to find a couple of posts.

"financial pressures & TMS"

"Getting worse b4 getting better"
in this post it was stated "" that if anyone knows anyone interested in art pass my site along""



Gaye
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Suz

559 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  11:42:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh dear - can't help getting involved here. Does it matter that karen wants to sell her art? For some reason, it doesn't bother me. She definitely suffers from TMS and probably needs to make a living too. I guess if everyone did that on the site, it would be a problem.

I don't know - I wonder if we all take ourselves too seriously and should lighten up.
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art

1903 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  11:53:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Suz

Oh dear - can't help getting involved here. Does it matter that karen wants to sell her art? For some reason, it doesn't bother me. She definitely suffers from TMS and probably needs to make a living too. I guess if everyone did that on the site, it would be a problem.

I don't know - I wonder if we all take ourselves too seriously and should lighten up.



It's not a high crime, that's for sure. And you're no doubt right that we absolutely take ourselves too seriously...I know I do.
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Singer_Artist

USA
1516 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  12:14:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Suz...Appreciate the support on this current attack...We do take ourselves FAR too seriously, that is for sure! I am HUMAN and so I CANNOT RECAL EVERY WORD I HAVE SAID ON EVERY POST...I was an over-poster at one time, when I was layed up for months on end with TMS pain...So given I posted sooo much about my pain, should I be crucified for not remembering one particular line from on particular post!?? My entire life does not center around the TMS forum...Although since this whole fiasco started, it sure seems to! I haven't painted in days and I am dealing with all sorts of symptoms from stress right now! The TMS is hitting my neck, fingers, chest and stomach.. Does that make the few of you who have it out for me happy to hear??

I started this whole thing speaking of an increase in pain even from something POSITIVE going on in my life...I was encouraged previously by some lovely people on here to freely share my art in the future...so I did. Why is it sooooooo important to you Gaye and Helen, to prove me wrong?! What is this REALLY about?

And, more importantly, I have something truly WONDERFUL that is opening up for me in my art career...I mean my face is going to be on the COVER of a magazine, with an article inside about my art and two photos of paintings of mine! And a MAJOR AIRLINE CARRIER is going to put this issue in their seat pockets the entire month of JUNE for all flights leaving JFK and coming to LV!!!! THAT IS WHAT I SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON, INSTEAD OF THIS OUT OF CONTROL DRAMAON HERE! I apologized if I offended anyone...I took responsibility too...This is really beyond the ridiculous...I think the few of you who MUST be enjoying this on some level should perhaps find some other scapegoat to pick on...And, btw...God willing, my art career could potentially take off on a very large scale from the publicity on the magazine...Already there is a art historian/authenticator that has some ideas for me...I deserve this happiness, I have suffered greatly, just like all of you have or we wouldn't be here in the first place...

LAST BUT NOT LEAST! Aren't we all dealing with ENOUGH PAIN AND SUFFERING FROM THE TMS then to fight like cats and dogs and waste valuable forum space!? My intention was to have this post be no longer then 2 pages! But again and again...When provoked to this level and overly overly analzyed by people who don't know my heart or me from Adam, it is VERY hard to keep quiet...That is my part in all of this and I own it. Now I pray that the few of you that are prolonging this agony will back off...I need to paint, not be involved in these insane wars.
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  12:17:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Communications positive or negative, confrontation, conflict, and joy etc., are a part of the human condition and play a major role in the formation of our psyches--therefore our TMS psychosomatic issues.

It didn't bother me particularly that Karen posted about her art, Karen will be Karen. I hope she makes a bundle on it and that the first thing she does is go see the Good Doctor, if she returns to NJ. I was surprised that wasn't the first thing she did on her arrival to the East Coast. I know she has financial difficulties, but, where there is a will, there is way.

I thought Art's comments were from the heart and from a positive motivation about the psychology behind Karen's post. Although this is called the TMS Board it could more aptly and just as well be called "THE PSYCHOLOGY BOARD". That's what TMS is all about after-all--the psychology benind our pain and suffering. If some one makes a comment about our psychological motivations, I would think that's part of the territory here and is to be expected and even encouraged.

The pages started building with Karen's reaction and defensiveness. In all fairness, Karen raised the level of emotional response and I think she will readily admit to this and has. And, I will now run, as fast as my limp will allow me, in mortal fear of the flames I may have fanned.

Aloha! and Simmer Down.
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allen_non

55 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  12:17:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good grief people, this is ridiculous! I posted an appeal for help a couple of days ago with a question regarding shoulder pain, trying to figure out if it could be TMS or something else from a shoulder injury & surgery a few years ago.

To date, not ONE SINGLE REPLY!! Instead, everyone is on this thread beating their gums over whether or not it is proper for someone to mention their website on this forum (and if that is the biggest irritant in your life, you're way better off than anyone I know), or another thread where an even bigger battle is going on. And don't give the line about "all this expression is necessary for healing". It isn't. In fact, from what I've read here the past few days, you're making each other's pain worse, not better.

Either way, get over it, all of you, and spend your energy helping people who come to this forum for genuine help.

You can respond or not, doesn't matter. I don't know if I will be coming back, and certainly won't be coming back to this thread. I'll check my shoulder thread for a few days, and if there isn't any help to be found, I'll just fade away from here, no fuss no muss.

I'll deal with my shoulder myself. And no, I'm not angry.

Disappointed Allen
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Singer_Artist

USA
1516 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  12:30:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Allen,
I am soooo sorry for my part in all of this...I feel terrible that no one replied to your need...I will search for you post and give you some input right away...Please accept my sincere apologies...
Hugs,
Karen

Tom,
You didn't fan any flames for me with what you said..It was reasonable and not designed to inflict pain..But I have to say (and I know it sounds a bit childish) I really didn't start this turning into the Hell it has become...My getting defensive did play a part, of course I own that..But..The INTENSITY and NEVER ENDINGNESS of it is not my doing.

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