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ppd

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  12:31:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So glad to have found you!

I found Dr. Sarno 3 years ago after the common go arounds with no relief from physical therapy, injections, acupuncture, osteopathy, no exercise, more exercise, pain meds, etc..
(For debilitating upper back pain…the last straw after a life filled with headaches, stomach problems, etc…a typical tms background and personality type….)
TMS has truly been a blessing in my life in so many ways…realizing that at 52 I may have more “gray hairs” in my body than on my head!….
It took me a long time (over a year) to become almost totally pain free…however, there was a significant pain release in the first few weeks (books and tape)….then journals…
TMS continues to sneak back from time to time, but I also know that I am who I am with a lifetime of personality traits (which both help and hinder me)…
When I feel significant pain come on I sit quietly and just go through in my mind what is angering me at that point and might even let my mind wander into some past angers….
It is always helpful and I am continually amazed by the power of the process.

It is interesting how I found you all….my 82 year old mom has been dealing with horrible continued pain with a “frozen shoulder”…where I knew it was tms related, as we all know, it is difficult to introduce others to the concept…
(I had tried for the first years after I found it and have waned my broadcast of the miracles of TMS.) I was googling info on frozen shoulder and reading all the medical explanations, which there are really none, then googled “frozen shoulder sarno” and found the TMS forum through I think another blog type website…

It is so wonderful finding others who have received the wonders of TMS as I have…none of my friends or family, though extremely supportive, have grasped it for themselves…
I continually struggle with that (which I think is also a TMS trait)…wanting to REALLY help others, as we know TMS can, and being so frustrated when we can’t “convince” them, even when they see the evidence in us…..

Well, just wanted to introduce myself as a newcomer to your forum and have enjoyed what I have read already and look forward to reading and contributing more…

marilyn (ppd)

HilaryN

United Kingdom
879 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  13:23:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome, Marilyn. What a lovely post!

Regarding spreading awareness of TMS: I take the attitude that even if only 1 in 10 people take it up, that's good. I'm resigned to the fact that some will reject it and I don't really care because, while I'll do my best to spread awareness, what really matters is that I'VE RECOVERED!

People can deny TMS all they want, but they can't take that away from me.

Hilary N

Edited by - HilaryN on 11/08/2006 13:25:01
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drziggles

USA
292 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  15:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that one other diagnostic criteria for TMS should be that once you have diagnosed yourself you feel a strong need to proselytize to others, and a strong disappointment if they do not respond! Interestingly, a friend of mine with back pain (to whom I had given a copy of Healing Back Pain, without any positive response) went in for diskectomy yesterday. I didn't know she was going for surgery, and the minute I got off the phone with her husband yesterday after he told me, I had back pain for the rest of the day!

I have found that the hardest part of dealing with TMS is the need to fix everyone else who has it, and the feeling of failure I get when I cannot.
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whitris

USA
26 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  20:14:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good thoughts! Here is my musing....

For Sarno-ites, maybe it is about weak boundaries and the need for control. The weak boundary helps us accept new ideas and embrace them. It also makes us vulnerable to do-gooder problems. If one person out there is hurting, we feel their pain, so we want to help them.

For those who resist TMS, it is because they trust their doctors, defer to their authority and have boundaries that are a bit too rigid. They don't have a control problem, but an openness issue. In general, their behavior is fine and protects them from quacks and swindlers, but in this case, it hurts them. The answer? When more mainstream doctors tell them that TMS is OK, they will respond better. Hence, we need to help the research cause, not try to convince them one by one.
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  23:06:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome PPD and you wrote a great post worthy of publication.

Witris, good observations also.

Regards,
tt
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MikeJ

United Kingdom
75 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2006 :  05:03:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I continually struggle with that (which I think is also a TMS trait)…wanting to REALLY help others, as we know TMS can, and being so frustrated when we can’t “convince” them, even when they see the evidence in us…..


Welcome, Marilyn! I haven't had much luck convincing anyone of TMS, I did mention it to a family member who had chronic neck pain and she did seem to be understanding but I'm not sure if she really grasped it. You're certainly not alone and I definetely share your sentiment and struggle.

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HilaryN

United Kingdom
879 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2006 :  01:49:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, maybe 1 in 100 would be more accurate. But even that’s worthwhile.

You have to remember, conditioning is strong. If someone’s been told one thing all their life, then you tell them something which conflicts with that, they’re not going to suddenly stop believing what they’ve been told all their life, unless they already happen to be sceptics of the medical system (in which case the conditioning is already weaker than with others).

When you tell someone about TMS you’re making them aware that it exists, which is an important first step. Don’t be discouraged if they’re not convinced. The important thing is that you have made them aware of it and by doing that you’re giving them a choice they didn’t have before. They probably won’t have heard of it before because there are so few of us who know about it and they’re unlikely to change their beliefs just because one person (against so many) has told them something different.

But 6 months or a year later they may hear of it again from another source. Then again from yet another source. Slowly, the previous conditioning is being weakened.

The growing no. of people on this forum is testimony to the fact that awareness is spreading. You have to take the long term view. You can’t change the world overnight, but you CAN change it. Your efforts are not in vain, even if the effect is not immediately apparent.

Hilary N

Edited by - HilaryN on 11/10/2006 01:50:56
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