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h2oskier25
USA
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 Posted - 09/15/2006 : 07:15:55
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Well put, TT.
I have to agree.
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robbokop
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 08:11:46
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TT says: 'Why spend thousand of dollars jumping from one method to another, when you can deal with TMS symptoms by reading a $25 book?'
This is what I have noticed a lot on the TMS forum. People have read the Sarno books but are constantly searching for more books, or different methods to tackle their problems. This seems a bit of an avoidance strategy as actually knuckling down and facing these dark and painful memories is just too hard. I have done this myself, but I now think the only way to solve these issues is to face them and experience them, in my case with the aid of psychotherapy. I am sick of feeling like this, but I know that there is no easy and quick answer. The emotions are scary, they are real and feeling them is more frightening (and rewarding) than any phantom pains TMS can conjure up even if if it doesn't seem that way initially. On the other side will come healing. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 09:09:29
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Well put, TT and robbokop. I was pretty mystified at first about why my pain would be easier to deal with than the feelings; I didn't believe it was possible they were that painful and difficult. But I discovered that they are. I do think a lot of people are looking for a way around that, or a way to shorten it.
When I read Sarno's book and the method worked for me, virtually the first thing I decided was that I was not giving any money to any other practitioners of some bizarre therapy. I've wasted too much money, time, and emotional energy that way. If I didn't have success with my own work, I would seek some guidance, and I think the best bet would be psychotherapy, because, like Sarno, those practitioners offer primarily education and observation of the self. It may be a slow process, but I think that this kind of learning proceeds best slowly; it's virtually impossible to grasp the new depths of yourself quickly.
What I'm saying is that if someone wants to try this stuff, then for them that's probably fine, but I wouldn't, and I don't think they're really a very helpful subject for discussion here. We're here to talk about Sarno and about TMS and about our psychologies, more than what bizarre methods may help them.
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ralphyde
USA
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 20:12:05
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I too have been fascinated by EFT for several months now, and have been receiving and reading the weekly newsletters from that site. I have also been quite skeptical, as the method just seems too simple, but since I haven't been in pain, I have had no cause to test it.
(My wife is the source of my obsessive interest in TMS, which I believe to be the cause of her pain, but she can't accept this diagnosis, and recently had spinal fusion surgery against my strong advice.)
But I agree that we, as TMS proponents, should remain open minded. TMS, like EFT, is widely rejected by those of "conventional" or so-called "scientific" bent, and if it works for many people, as both belief systems seem to do, then we should be the last to criticize theirs, as we are in much the same boat. On their website, they have many doctors who are proponents, and they describe many successes with difficult cases, just as Dr. Sarno and other TMS doctors do. So if it works for them, I say, "Great!" even if it seems too simplistic to me.
Much of my reading recently has stressed that what we believe determines our reality, and as much as I would like my wife to believe in TMS, she has so far been unable to, and so far the surgery has not relieved her pain either.
I believe that her pain is connected with painful emotions from her childhood that she doesn't want to face, that at some unconsious level she has decided that the pain is preferable to facing such emotional issues, and if any technique would help her to deal with such issues, that would be all to the good as far as I'm concerned. Who knows, maybe EFT could help her deal with those emotions. Whatever works, I say. And those of us in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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wrldtrv
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Posted - 09/18/2006 : 00:21:31
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| At first glance, EFT sounds like "Healing Touch Therapy" (the bit about balancing energy...). Having done both EMDR and Healing Touch, I can't say I'm impressed with either. EMDR might have some credence because of the therapy component, but Healing Touch is simply laughable and I'm embarrassed I ever did it. |
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2012 : 15:39:14
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Digging up an old thread here to hear some new opinions.
Sedona seems interesting to me. A little gimmicky but could be effective. I'm trying some of the techniques based on videos I've seen. Of course, I'm sure the book would help more, but I just hate buying so many books.
I will say this, for me... EFT was crap. Did nothing. Tapping=nothing. In fact, it might have just aggravated me.
I've done some presence process type work daily after reading some Michael Brown articles. THAT may be helping a bit.
Curious if anyone is currently integrating the Sedona Method into their lives and how they feel about it.
I definitely need to make peace with emotions and let them go. Easier said than done.
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-1/2010 - Developed chronic sinus problems. ENTs/Docs can't find anything
-5/29/2010 - Doc gives cocktail of allergy meds which induces first ever panic attack/anxiety.
-7/16/2010 - Anxiety stays/worsens - put on Xanax
2/1/2011 - Began Xanax taper - Withdrawal starts - full body chaos
-6/11/2011 - Last dose of Xanax. Physical/emotional chaos continues for several months.
-Now: Taking it day by day, looking for real answers and ways to heal myself without medical poison. |
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Sedona method
