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art

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Posted - 08/16/2006 :  07:37:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Okay guys, ran on Tuesday and my knee ain't great. I am going to try again tomorrow and then reassess. It definitely is not right. It isn't super painful. I never had a knee issue so I am not sure how to rate this pain. It certainly hasn't gotten better. I am wondering of course if I should take time off and rest or keep trying. I have the incessant tape loop of "if I take time off, it will get better, but what if it doesn't" AND "running on it will make it worse". YUCK YUCK.

I think it was Art who said, if you choose to obsess..... I think that is the most difficult thing for me, the incessant tape loops of the same uncertainy. Do or not do.

So I will run tomorrow and see if it gets worse and then decide whether to take a week off. HATE THIS.

Thanks All

HSB



HS,

For what it's worth, I don't think there's a thing in the world wrong with taking an extra day's rest. Some hardliners might argue, but in my opinion it's a reasonable thing to do...

Having said all that, it really sounds like your knee is not in any way seriously injured...I have a feeling that if you and I swapped knees for a run, you'd be surprised at the low level, migrating knee pain I have...I'm at the point now where I thikn of it as normal...Once in a great while, I get a more severe twinge which might grab my attention, but it's usually just that, a twinge..

Edited by - art on 08/16/2006 07:38:44
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hsb

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Posted - 08/16/2006 :  08:00:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe I am being greedy for wanting 100% no pain!!! Thanks Art for telling me you run with some sort of mitigating knee pain. I am not averse to taking time off. Last week I ran on Thurs. a.m. and didn't run again until Sunday. Fear is a big part of this I think. The fear of the knee pain turning into something big that will force me out of running. And boy there are tons of knee issues that can happen to runners. This summer has been great - I was able to get through a bunch of "potential" run stoppers. So far the knee pain hasn't stopped like the others. I admit I have a strong fear about this. Because it is not going away as quickly as the others, I am frightened. Art I am trying not to have as many obsessive thoughts.

Thanks for your advice.
HSB



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art

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Posted - 08/16/2006 :  08:32:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Art I am trying not to have as many obsessive thoughts.


Keep up the good work HS...You can't succeed if you don't try...A lot of this is simply practice. I just got sick of living in fear.
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hsb

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Posted - 08/16/2006 :  16:45:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Art-
I still have this fear as the pain is getting worse. I did a bad thing today and looked up "runners' knee" on the net. Of course I did all the wrong things, ie. intense speedwork without proper conditioning, not stretching, etc., etc. It's so weird (or maybe not) that the knee pain came after the speedwork. I always run tons of hills because it's hilly here. I felt great during the speedwork, it wasn't until the next day that the knee pain occurred.

I am planning on getting up to run tomorrow morning. I have visions though of having to stop the run and walking back. FEAR. But also the fear of this being a 6 monther.

The tape loop is "running" rampant. I really have to try tomorrow to run w/o thoughts of the knee and failure and stopping.

On a lighter note .... I have been taking golf lessons - up to my 5th one and finally i had that "aha moment". Got the swing. It all finally connected. I am so excited. Art, you golf so you will understand where i;m coming from.

I will report back after the run.

HSB
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Michele

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Posted - 08/17/2006 :  11:03:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Every time I run I have some pain somewhere! I haven't had a pain-free run in years, but I just keep going because there's nothing wrong.

I had some weird knee pain a couple weeks ago. I NEVER have knee pain and it just about dropped me to the ground.

Of course, my 16-yr. old just got his license . . .
Our 18-yr. old was leaving for college . . .
I was going to write a big check for the college . .
I was going to write a big check for more car insurance . . .

See where this is taking me? I no longer have the knee pain.
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art

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Posted - 08/17/2006 :  11:42:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MIchele,

Well said... The thing is, I'm not even sure it's possible to get solidly into middle age and not have some pain while running...

I think for me at least, my default frame of reference is youth...I really think there's a part of me that genuinely does not believe I'm 55, or that it's even possible for me to be 55...In that part of me, my "soul," or "my essential self," or whatever you want to call, I'm still, and forever, 21...

It takes a conscious reminder to myself sometimes that this isn't true...That I'm 55 and I can't expect my body not to be breaking down in some ways...Pain in middle age is normal...I doubt very much that it's all TMS..But it in no way means that we can't keep running...Like you Michelle, I've almost always got something going on...This forum with its collective wisdom has really taught me to ignore most aches and pains...IT's a very liberating thing

Edited by - art on 08/17/2006 11:43:58
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Michele

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Posted - 08/17/2006 :  12:18:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LOL! I'm the same way Art. Me? 47? NO WAY!! Sarno says that we can have unconscious rage about getting older and aging. I will concede that some days I let the TMS get me and I sleep in, but most of the time I'm out there pounding the pavement and when a pain comes along I usually say something like "oh no you don't" and let my mind wander to what's REALLY going on.

You're right, it is VERY liberating! I just wish I could convince more of my running friends that the "sudden pain" they feel isn't anything more than a wake-up call for their brain. But alas, we're all just a little bit obsessive, aren't we?
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hsb

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Posted - 08/17/2006 :  16:09:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Guys-
I ran this morning - did my 6 miles very slowly. the knee bothered me but nothing like stabbing ITB pain at all. I made it through the run and I can say that it wasn't worse, nor was it better. Won't go on the internet any more for my "runner's knee" dx. I am going to continue running as long as it doesn't stop me in my tracks. I am still obsessing that's for sure but I am trying to move it out of my thoughts and breaking the tape loop.

One thing I don't obsess about is going to a doctor. I have been through that so often with all my previous running "injuries". I do obsess about whether or not to run "through" this but I am going to. I do not give into my age (53) - I think I can run pain free like I did 2 weeks ago. It will happen.
Thanks all.
HSB

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