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 Posted - 06/12/2006 : 12:29:56
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Susie,
I would love to hear more about your allergies going away doing the TMS work. My back pain has gone - had a small flare two days ago but it went within a day when i applied Sarno's principles.
My problems left are fatigue/mild acne and I have VERY dark circles under my eyes. I had convinced myself it was related to my diet and have always thought I was allergic to dairy/coffee/sugar adn wheat. When I don't eat this things - especially dairy adn wheat, my dark circles are much much better. Could these circles adn the fatigue really be TMS? If so, do I do the same thing - keep eating what i want and ignore the fatigue. I have a feeling that I have to overcome the fear and that is what is standing in my way |
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 06/12/2006 : 17:56:14
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| Hi Suz, I never had allergys but had several bouts with a "virus" that didn't go away. I would feel better for a day and then it would return. I had an episode about 8 years ago that lasted months. It involved sinus trouble with other flu like symptoms that finally went away when I exhaused all medical avenues and was told they couldn't find anything wrong with me. I believed I was ok so I became ok. The last problem was 3 years ago. Severe sinus for a year. I think I remember reading that the dark circles were associated with sinus problems. I particularly remember the exaustion. All I can tell you is I think the sinus trouble inadvertainly left with the Sarno treatment of back pain. I truly believe that most chronic sinus trouble is tms. That's not to say that one cannot have a sinus infection. Miche's post sounded like an infection as her nasal discharge was colored. Mine never was. |
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miche
Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 13:27:46
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| Thought I would share this with you all and get your thoughts on the subject, I read in my fibro book that tightness in the neck or in the face) can restrict the fluid in the nasal passage, that in itself could start an infection, also read about a condition called LPR , WHICH IS CAUSED BY ACID FROM YOUR STOMACH TRAVELING UP TO THE THROATH AND NASAL PASSAGE, IT IS CALLED SILENT REFLUX , most people who suffer from this condition do not experience hearburn , however according to all the research that I have done on the subject it only takes minute amount of acid to cause the problem, and is often caused by a hiatus hernia, I was told a long time ago by a gastro doctor that my stomach pain was caused by my back muscle, despite the fact that I have a history of ulcers, reflux and hiatus hernia, seems to me that it is all related to tms and body bracing, whether it is sinus, hernia, or fibro. I have been on antibiotic for five days now, the last two days, I went from complete blockage to constant sneezing , the doctor sees no sign of bacterial infection, he said it could be that the amoxil has done it's job or the sneezing comes from allergies, yet I was not sneezing when this started two weeks ago, all so complicated, I am still as white as a ghost, feel weak and shaky, my muscles are as tight as a board and my stomach is killing me, mind you I HAVE BARELY HAVE HAD THE STRENGHT TO GIVE MY OTHER PROBLEMS MORE THAN A FLEETING THOUGHT, yet I know that Ihave a problem as I have not open a bill in two weeks, gone to the bank to check the state of my finances and have not step in the basement since either, that place gives me the willies and I cannot shake the notion that it is bad for me , you are probably shaking your head by now wondering where I am going with my ramblings, I used to say when I translated a joke from English to French and people could not see the humor that it sounded better in French maybe that is the case here , I could explain better in French lol, good excuse when one is not making sense anyway, bottom line I believe it is all tms yet I am inclined to think not in terms of oxygen deprivation but more as a chronic tightnening of all the muscles caused by long term anxiety, all my problems started the year my husband of thirty years and I divorced, that same year my mom died, my house burned down spent Chrismas in a hotel, I totaled my car, guy missed a stop sighn, he was driving a pick up truck when he sideswept me, a month later I got fired when I refused to entertain my boss,( no union ) and I did not want to work for the jerk after this anyhow, this was the beginning of waking up with my fists tight, not being able to turn my neck , horrible headaches and all over pain eventually, ten years of hardship followed, until this year, met a great guy, but still afraid that eventually he will get fed up with my pain so I put myself under constant pressure to act cheeful and peppy, must look good at all times also to make up for my being sick so often, so I am still tense |
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miche
Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 13:37:44
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| Ran out of room, anyone has an opinion about every day anxiety as a cause would love to hear,was also holding my breath for years, shoulders always hunched up, caught myself so many times, maybe the muscles shorten after months of tension, it felt like I could not breathe right if I lowered my shoulders, also I meant translate from French to English for the jokes |
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 14:28:15
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| Hey Miche, ibs is a big equavalent symptom of tms for me. The antibiotic sure complicates stomach problems and could be what is irritating yours. I had the same reactions several times on the sinus-antibiotic thing. I would feel alot better in 3 days only to regress back into some form of sinus problems. They kept switching drugs and then suggested a mri of my sinuses. After that, they usually suggest surgery. I used to read alot of sinus message boards. There are alot of people suffering sinus as well as the people suffering pain. I am convinced it is all the same thing. |
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miche
Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 20:38:06
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| Susie, what did they find out on the mri? I gather you never had the surgery, this was suggested to me also after a cat scan which found some infection last year, was given a strong antibiotic for a month's time, I think it was Tequin, anyhow I did not want to take an antibiotic for this long , so I did not and it went away only to come back every 3 months or so, what bothers me is the fact that infections usually don't go away by themselves once they are settled in even if the cause is tms, so you must have gone through a period of utter discomfort, how did you get on top of this? how long did it take? I finally took an allergy pill and resume the steroid nasal spray today , hate the nasal spray , it causes a lower immunity among other things, but I am going away to see my 83 year old dad tomorrow and need to function, he lives 12 hrs away, I will be back by Tuesday and look forward to your answer, sat in front of the xray machine today , just as the radiologist was ready to press the button , the power went out, I got tired of waiting for it to come back so I left, convincing myself that it is all tms and being able to get on top of everything would have saved me all this waiting for nothing, lol |
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miche
Canada
283 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 20:40:04
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| By the way Susie, I find it fascinating that you were able to apply tms to sinusitis and win, what an accomplishment, good for you!!!!! |
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Susie
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2006 : 07:42:50
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| Miche, I never got the head scan. By the time it came to that, I had such a mistrust in doctors I became argumentative to their suggestions. They were so unable to affect any change in my condition that I just lost hope and trust. I took antihistimens, decongestants,and steriod nasal spray. I used the spray religiously. They all seemed to work for about a week and then lost potency. Each day I would hold out to try to decide which to use. It was pitiful. I did the saltwater flush for 3 or 4 months.Then I realized I felt pretty much the same if I did nothing. I guess I just decided to live with the condition. It seemed to ebb and flo which, by the way, lots of tms symptoms do. When I had the back attack and began working on Sarno, I realized one day that my head wasn't stopped up. I guess the pain was so much worse than the head discomfort, I hadn't immediately noticed the improvement. Probably my brain decided that pain was alot better distraction for me than sinus. Anyway,all my symptoms left along with the pain. The sinusitis had lasted well over a year. When it left, all my energy and vitality returned. Also, no more circles. Well, maybe a few as I am a little older. |
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carbar
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 21:51:06
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Car, I don't understand, did you apply tms to your allergies? or did they not resurface because you were working on the tms for your joints? Miche ]
Dear Miche,
Sorry this is coming late in the discussion. I think it was a combination of both. Definitely a shift in perspective that was responsible for being able to feel more in control of my health.
I guess as I saw TMS thinking was responsible for my arm pain, I could then see that other pain was related to TMS. Therefore, I was more aware of my unconscious funny business and not letting it affect ANY body parts.
Hope that's helpful. Believe in the TMS "diagnosis" was critical to having faith in myself that I am a healthy being and that alergies coming on all of a sudden doesn't necessarily make sense.
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