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Jena

USA
195 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2008 :  04:48:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I forgot to mention I asked my friend whose a med student why my lymphocytes could be low and a day after my blood test I had like a 24 hr flu he said that probably did it but I thought the opposite would of happened it would of been high. He explained it depends if it bacterial or viral. Idk I cry every night because I truly think I have these physical fatal diseases. I'd do anything in the world to not gave these obsessive thoughts I wasn't always like this.
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Jena

USA
195 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2008 :  05:28:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just checked out my blood test to see my TSH level. To see if they tested for T 4. On my blood test it says TSH, ULTRASENSITIVE. Does that mean it tested that? Since it doesnt just say TSH?
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simplyfree

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Posted - 06/27/2008 :  21:02:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jena,

Please know that I'm not a health professional. What I've shared with you has been my experience and may in no way apply to you. What I posted was for information purposes only, not to frighten you.

It sounds as if you've gone the dr circuit and they basically agree. You're a healthy 23 year old woman. Without evidence to the contrary, it may be time to take their word for it.

It is important to trust ourselves; however, when we have anxiety and obsessive tendencies, we may not be in the best position to accurately assess our own health.

Anxiety is self-perpetuating. We have TMS or something similar that causes anxiety. We begin to feel something and that makes us more anxious, which in turn can then cause all types of sensations and weird and unaccountable feelings, which can send us over the obsessing brink. You can become a prisoner in your own body. That is anxiety. And that is TMS.

And if you look back on your earlier post about your grandmother and your father I think you will understand why you have anxiety, in particular health-related anxiety. It's understandable. At the same time, however, it can also take over your life if you let it. I say that from personal experience.

You might want to think more seriously about taking your drs advice on finding a therapist who specializes in anxiety. No matter what is causing it, at this point, it might be best to try and get it under better control. There are several mediums available to help with anxiety. Many have been evaluated on this forum. The important thing is to find one for you.

"LA" gave some very good advice up above. Anxiety builds momentum but we can take back control.

It makes sense that an infection could affect your lymphocytes. You could wait a couple of months and have it re-checked.

TSH and T4 are typically two different tests for the thyroid. However if you're uncertain what was actually tested by 'TSH ultrasensitive,' ask your doctor to explain it to you.

I'd like to say, 'don't worry.' But speaking from experience I know saying that does nothing to help anxiety. You really are the one in control. You've proved it already by managing your pain.

And try to remember that 'feelings' are just that - feelings. Nothing more. They're not tangible. They come and they go unless we hold onto them. And what's the worst that can happen by letting them go? Holding on, letting go - we're still the ones in control.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." -Anais Nin
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Jena

USA
195 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2008 :  18:23:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you ever felt like your just doing normal things not thinking about anxiety not stressed out or anything and you just feel like somethings not right? You just cant breathe? Its nothing overpowering but its just like your not gettting enough air?

My mother used to suffer from genarlized anxiety and panic attacks when she was 23 as well and I mentioned to her that my stomach, my heart, and my breathing all feel connected, its a very strange feeling to describe. She knew exactly what i was talking about and said its anxiety!

Has anyone felt like there was some kind of connection especially my stomach and my breathing i cant explain it. Ive been getting my lymphnodes checked for years and still no doctors think I should go further in testing... idk

i really try and let go of the feelings but i think its easier to do that during a panic attack maybe? I dont know when i just have a little anxiety which still is [pretty bad in itself I cant rid it. Than my mind runs with the thought "maybe theres something else causing this". I dont know what to tell my current theerapist i feel bad getting rid of her if you know what I mean
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Scottydog

United Kingdom
330 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 :  14:06:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

In 2006 I recommended reading Eckhart Tolle on this thread - now I believe his book is mostly about postiive thinking - if you are in the now you are not dwelling on past failures etc - but think that dealing with all the trivia of every day life is the 'cure' so now I do not recommend his book!!

I have had anxiety and my therapist recommends dealing with present issues - something bothering you then physically deal with it (not 'I will speak to them sometime soon when the opportunity arises'), someone is demanding too much of your time then politely explain that you have other important things to do and will call on them in a week's time, teenage son plays loud music then tell him to stop/ chuck speakers out/ tell him to move out/buy ear plugs etc etc etc
Very simple but very liberating and once you have the idea, anxiety reducing.
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simplyfree

20 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 :  16:07:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Jena

Have you ever felt like your just doing normal things not thinking about anxiety not stressed out or anything and you just feel like somethings not right? You just cant breathe? Its nothing overpowering but its just like your not gettting enough air?

Hey Jena, you sound better. I'm glad.

To answer your question, yes, I've had it off and on for years. Some times more severe than others. Even going to the ER to see what my blood oxygen level was. It was normal of course.

Fatigue and breathing issues are both related to TMS. Whether you are consciously worried about something doesn't affect the mind's ability to obsess on it or to cause anxiety. Remember, TMS is mediated through the unconscious, not even the subconscious.

There are breathing techniques incorporated into all modalities of stress reduction. The reason being that one of the bodies responses to stress is to do shallow breathing, faster breathing. This doesn't allow enough oxygen to get into the blood stream. That in itself can make you more tense and have odd sensations.

The muscles around your diaphram also include the ones associated with your stomach. Classic and tension-related. Exercise is a good, physical way to relieve tension.

Fortunately, it's something you can control and practice. breathing.org has some info. It seems like an oxymoron for humans to have to practice breathing, but due to stressful situations in life, we do.

You say you aren't consciously anxious but your symptoms are telling you otherwise. Try to bring those emotions/thoughts to the surface.

Read and re-read TMS literature. Keeping busy is good but not if you're too busy or pre-occupied to address what's going on emotionally. Avoidance is another TMS strategy.

Take care and keep us posted as to how you're doing.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." -Anais Nin
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Jena

USA
195 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 :  11:55:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for your reply. Ive been having a lot of stomach problems lately and I think I am just going to get an endoscopy and colonoscopy though. My upper stomach seems bloated or distended for 2 years now and was supposed to get an endoscopy and never did, I think its time. Being the hypochondriac that I am I think the worst and I have stomach cancer or enlarged lymhnodes causing my abdomen to swell and unable to breath... Ive had abdominal ultrasound done and it came up normal but I feel pain as well so I doubt its TMS. I dont know if being a hypochondriac and always thinking im dieing is causing some sort of anxiety without me knowing it. I have the symptoms but I dont feel stressed out about anything going on in llife except my cat being sick and maybe just the obsessive thoughts of illness in itsself is causing stress
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joli

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 :  15:53:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I feel your pain. I had the worst experience with meds like that. But it goes away, Do ask to be tapered with prozac or something.
Anxiety can be so strong , you feel crazy, I know, try craying or laughing with someone close.
Ask for help, don't let it wear you out.


namaste!
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