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FlyByNight
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 Posted - 04/03/2006 : 12:47:20
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Does anyone know if there is a link between having an unresolved TMS for years and the probability of developing a cancer ?
As TMS is involving oxygen depletion which in turn increase the amount of waste products, I am wondering if this process can increast the local toxicity of the tissues and then increase the chance of having a serious desease like cancer on the long run. Well Sarno does not mention it at all in his 4 books.
Nothing related to me personnaly, just curious following an article relating tension to cancer I red yesterday. I know cancer is a multifactorial desease that often involves nutrition and genetics as well as stress ... but any opinion/experience would be welcome.
How many of you had TMS for many years and did struggle with cancer afterwhile ?
Thanx
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Edited by - FlyByNight on 04/03/2006 12:49:48 |
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2scoops
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2006 : 14:57:18
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| Actaully Sarno does say something in The Divided Mind. I remeber reading about one of his patients that kept getting physical treatments for his TMS sympotms, and finally ended up developing cancer. I remeber reading something else in there, will try to find it later tonight. |
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Posted - 04/04/2006 : 03:58:04
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I always have mixed feelings about discussing possible cancer/TMS links - it worries me that someone new to the possiblilty of TMS being at the root of their back pain, RSI, digestive problem etc, picks up on the possibility - however slight, that they might get cancer. That would be worrying in the extreme.
Having said that - it is particularly interesting for me because I got cancer in 2003 - during my recovery from TMS. I was well on the way back to a normal life at the time.
I went along for my regular mammogram, not suspecting a thing, but two microscopic areas of malignant cells were detected.
Because there was more than one area, mastectomy was advised - I agreed and had that done, along with immediate reconstructive surgery.
Here's the interesting thing (anecdotal I know): when I went to get the final report two weeks after surgery - I was given the best news possible - no spread whatsoever and the cancer had been of a non-agressive type. But in the interval between diagnosis and surgery one of the malignant areas had disappeared.
I was given two possible causes - a mistake by the doctor who did the biopsies - unlikely because she did so many core biopsies, or, and this seems the more likely - my body had got rid of it.
I do wonder if the cancer was linked to my dreadful TMS. I'll never know of course, but just maybe, because I was well on my way to recovery at that time, my body would have zapped the other area of malignancy as well.
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FlyByNight
Canada
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Posted - 04/04/2006 : 09:23:47
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Well, AnneG,your case is an interesting one demonstrating the power of the mind on healing serious desease such as cancer...
After thinking to my original question up there, I suspect there is so many people recovering from TMS who are not getting cancer at all that the possible link between cancer and TMS is probably NOT a very obvious and direct one.
Moreover I do see your post as something very encouraging to all the people working on their TMS because in my opinion it suggest the possibility that working on your TMS can also produce positive results on other deseases that are involving a mindbody component, even multifactorial ones like cancer...
The deeper I am getting into this, the more I think that working on emotions is a sort or root key to generic health.
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Edited by - FlyByNight on 04/04/2006 09:42:27 |
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Carolyn
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Posted - 04/04/2006 : 10:48:34
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Although I am a firm believer in TMS and am constantly surprised by the number of things that pop up in my life and turn out to be TMS, I don't think we should assume that everything is necessarily caused by emotins.
We have to remember that statistics tell us that one in four people will get cancer in their lifetime so some precentage of people with TMS will get cancer wheter it is caused by TMS or not. You always have to be critical of antecdotal evidence and remember that just because 2 things occur together does not mean that one has caused the other. It takes looking at a lot of data and running the statistics to prove that.
There have been a lot of scientific studies looking at whether cancer and stress are related and no conclusive link has ever been shown. Having said that, there is clear evidence that stress can supress you immune system and the immune system does play a role in surveying your body for abnormal cancerous cells (as evidenced by the increase in certain types of cancer in immunosuppressed patients). So there is reason to suspect it could be true but no hard evidence tosupport it
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FlyByNight
Canada
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Posted - 04/04/2006 : 12:48:39
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Everything you said in your post does make a lot of sense to me Carolyn.
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Tunza
New Zealand
198 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2006 : 14:24:15
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FlyByNight
You might find "The Journey" by Brandon Bays interesting if this is a topic you want to explore further.
Tunza
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FlyByNight
Canada
209 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2006 : 14:29:05
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Indy
Canada
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Posted - 04/07/2006 : 20:41:26
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FlyByNight
Dr. Gabor Mate of Vancouver wrote a well-documented book on mindbody diseases, cancer being one of the diseases he describes in his book entitled "When the Body Says No - The Cost of Hidden Stress". He shows how repressed emotions and personality disorders can lead to degenerative conditions such as cancer. Excellent read.
Blessings
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