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joela

USA
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Posted - 03/17/2006 :  08:39:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I too have multiple symptoms, especially neck shoulder and tinnitus. Has anyone applied Dr. Sarno's theory with ringing in the ears and it has gotten better?

FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  09:18:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have E*X*A*C*T*L*Y the same symtoms you have .... I am still in the recovery process but I notice that when my tension is going down a bit using sarno approach, so my tinnitus is ... its tension related in my case...

what kind of rigning do you hear ???? in my case, it a very high frequency whisteling ...

how is your neck pain ? unilateral or both side ... tinnitus on one ear or both ? loss of hearing too ?

regards

P.

Edited by - FlyByNight on 03/17/2006 09:21:15
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n/a

560 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  09:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I had (past tense) ringing in the ears. Sometimes it was so loud I could hardly hear anything else. I consider it a big emotional signal for me when it happens. It is the TMS boogeyman...
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joela

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  10:29:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are a life saver!!! I am trying to apply these techniques. I hope it doesn't take too long!
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Originally posted by PeterMcKay

Yes, I had (past tense) ringing in the ears. Sometimes it was so loud I could hardly hear anything else. I consider it a big emotional signal for me when it happens. It is the TMS boogeyman...

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Allan

USA
226 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  18:59:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had tinnitus. It went away when my back pain went away. Neither ever came back.

Allan.
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n/a

560 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  20:31:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tell us about yourself Joela and what you think has broght you to this point in your life.
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wrldtrv

666 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  23:28:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had tinnitus several years ago. In my case it was purely psychological. It went away for good after about a year. From time to time it reappears briefly when I am stressed.
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joela

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2006 :  08:33:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PeterMcKay

Tell us about yourself Joela and what you think has broght you to this point in your life.


Hi Peter: Thanks for asking. I had been going thru a difficult time in my life with trying to obtain a life long dream in my profession. It took three long years of ups and downs but I did get it! I went thru a lot of stress and I know that is most of what has caused these aches and pains and ringing. I am just trying to figure out how to apply it.
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Fox

USA
496 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2006 :  15:17:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I've posted before, look at www.tinnitus.org I got rid of my nerve-wracking, long term ringing of the left ear after reading this site, having just one session with a TRT trained audiologist in Greensboro NC, trying lots of noise conditioning (you'll learn more about that on the web site), purposefully exposing myself to louder noises, and using Sarno's principles. The opinions found on the web site are mostly compatible with Sarno's principles.
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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  09:24:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
joela

how are you feeling today ?
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joela

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  16:22:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
eARS ARE LOUD BUT NECK ISN'T BAD. i DO NOT HAVE PAIN WHERE YOURS IS. MINE IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE AT THE BASE OF THE SKULL. THE LEFT SIDE TOOK ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS BUT THAT IS COMPLETELY GONE. I HOPE YOUR MOBILITY KEEPS IMPROVING!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by FlyByNight

joela

how are you feeling today ?

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joela

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  16:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Fox!
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Originally posted by Fox

As I've posted before, look at www.tinnitus.org I got rid of my nerve-wracking, long term ringing of the left ear after reading this site, having just one session with a TRT trained audiologist in Greensboro NC, trying lots of noise conditioning (you'll learn more about that on the web site), purposefully exposing myself to louder noises, and using Sarno's principles. The opinions found on the web site are mostly compatible with Sarno's principles.

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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  16:26:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
joela, mine is also at the base of the skull by the way .. its probably involving the trigeminal nerve which is innervating the ear if I remember well. it could explain de tinnitus.

do you see any link between your neck pain and the intensity of your tinnitus ??.. does it increase when you clench your teeth for instance ?

P.
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joela

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  16:31:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now that you mention it my neck hurts alittle today and the roarong and ringing are louder. The ring gets high pitched when i yawn. the whole thing is the pits P.

quote:
Originally posted by FlyByNight

joela, mine is also at the base of the skull by the way .. its probably involving the trigeminal nerve which is innervating the ear if I remember well. it could explain de tinnitus.

do you see any link between your neck pain and the intensity of your tinnitus ??.. does it increase when you clench your teeth for instance ?

P.

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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  16:36:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the fact that it increases when you yawns suggest that its probably relatted to muscle tension .... so probably to TMS... I hope it is a little bit reassuring... If it was related to auditory nerve damage solely, it would probably not be dependant on your muscular activity.

by the way, joela, you can reach me to pdube@kineconcept.com
if you would like to talk about it.




P.

Edited by - FlyByNight on 03/23/2006 16:37:51
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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  20:27:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JOela,

Hi Joan.

My tinnitus is increasing some days when I clench teeth. I also have TMJ. I
was in the process of treating it with a neuromuscular dentistry approach
when I discovered sarno. In my case its definitely tension related. My neck
has been sore for years but I had a very mild whiplash while playing hockey
8 months ago and it triggered nothing less than nasty TMS hell in my
neck... TInnitus appeared suddenly, followed by very aggressive upper neck
spasms on the left .. some drugs helped relieve the spasms like ativan. MRI
, CAT SCAN and ultrasound were all normal...

I stopped chiro, PT, osteo, accupuncture and massage 3 months ago to focus
on sarno... TMS approach is helping me. I feel very small improvements each
weeks... I have some days pain free, it is very variable at that time ....


my neck symtoms include crackling, rice crispies sounds, muscle spasms at
the base of the skull (sub occipital muscles). varying difficulties to
rotate my neck to the left or to do left lateral neck flexion ... tinnitus
, TMJ crackling. etc etc...


By the way. I am a Ph.D. in medical enginerring, so just like you I tend to
overanalyze too much myself ...


I could be kinda cool to keep track of our mutual progess i think !


P.


I cannot email you using this site.. Send me your email directly si I can write to you directly

thanx
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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2006 :  09:38:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes joela, but the reply address is ccand12@aol.com and I get a mail delivery sub telling there is no user to this address.
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joela

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2006 :  12:41:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll try again tonight. Let me know if you get the new one. I also forget to mention my upper arm/shoulder pain!
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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2006 :  12:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just send me your direct email . it will be simpler I guess .

ill check tonight
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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2006 :  22:55:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this email address is invalid joela ...
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Becca

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2006 :  15:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fox
I read that you had good success treating your tinnitus with a TRT therapist. How long was your recovery process? What kinds of ups and downs did you have as you applied sarnos theories and the TRT therapy?
I recently suffered sudden deafness in one ear as a result of a viral infection. I now have constant tinniuts. I am hoping that I can do something about it. The TRT therapists seem to think that tinnitus is irrelevant to ones hearing status? I that what you were told?-R
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