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chicago
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 Posted - 03/02/2006 : 20:21:53
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| Tonight I went to my sons open house at school. I have been doing pretty well pain wise so I didn't think to much of it. Once I got there and his class started their performance I had all kinds of burning pain. In the back of my mind I was probably fearing the event. I felt trapped with no outs sitting in a large crowd of adults. I tried to tell myself its only fear and to calm down but I only became more fearful when the pain did not subside. In fact it just got worse. I tend to get very depressed after such experiences. After all it was a special night for my son and I was stuck in pain. I know others have had similar experiences. Any advice would be welcome. I will be going to my daughters open house next week so I get a chance to experience a different outcome. |
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FlyByNight
Canada
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 12:41:07
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The thing I do in such situations is that the more it hurts , the more I am digging in the pain by doing exactly what is triggerering the pain. It often works for me.
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chicago
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 12:55:37
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| Do you mean that you are not fleeing the situation but staying there and just taking the pain in. I do that but many times the pain just intensifies. (TMS gremlin at work) Sometimes I can ignore it and other times I get very depressed about it and my pain gets worse. Has anyone tried to visualize an event before it happens? Does that help or just make you more aprehensive and/or scared? |
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FlyByNight
Canada
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 12:59:08
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well not really. it is more than that.. I am applying some of the Fred Amir principles. If it hurts.. I am going more thoroughly in the activity that hurts.
If being in a crowd hurts, I will try to find the most dense spot in the crowd and place myself into it and ignore the pain .
it is fundamental that we show our brain that we are taking over and that the pain does not fear us anymore .....
its a bit extreme, but that is the way I chose to do it. As hard as it is, there is no compromise with TMS.
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chicago
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 15:56:50
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| How successful do you find that strategy? Do you ever get really down if things seem to get worse or just try and stay the course. Wha tis the name of Fred Amir's book? Thanks! |
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AriG00
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 12:00:36
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I have the exact same thing. I get more symtpoms in situations where I'm around other people. It is no question a combination of anxiety and panic, and a conditioned reaction. The first step is to reread all of sarno's theories about "conditioned" responses, really ingrain them into your head, so you start realizing that you react a certain way because you "expect" it.
If those don't work, see a psychologist, or search for a book on panic and anxiety, there are lots of good references out there. A panic attack is primarily the same thing that you are experiencing, you're body is "distracting" you from "freaking out" in those situations, because you are used to it.
Hope that helps a little, I struggle with the same thing and I'm working on it. If you really focus on fixing it, and researching on what to do, which it looks like you are doing, don't be discouraged, and definitely don't avoid the situation, bring a little notepad, and take notes on the process, do what you have to do, hope that is insightful, good luck, let me know how its going.
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Originally posted by chicago
Tonight I went to my sons open house at school. I have been doing pretty well pain wise so I didn't think to much of it. Once I got there and his class started their performance I had all kinds of burning pain. In the back of my mind I was probably fearing the event. I felt trapped with no outs sitting in a large crowd of adults. I tried to tell myself its only fear and to calm down but I only became more fearful when the pain did not subside. In fact it just got worse. I tend to get very depressed after such experiences. After all it was a special night for my son and I was stuck in pain. I know others have had similar experiences. Any advice would be welcome. I will be going to my daughters open house next week so I get a chance to experience a different outcome.
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chicago
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 13:14:54
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| Thanks Arigoo. I have found a very good book called the "Anxiety Cure" When I read it I saw myself. It's been very helpful and I try to implement the strategies however sometimes like at my sons open house I get so anxious and frustrated because I don't get immediate relief after I try to employ a strategy. So I end up in pain until I can leave, go home and process everything. I also get angry at the time it takes. Sometimes I feel like I am making great progress and then I attend an event like the one I mentioned and experience pain and feel defeated. I also end up obsessing about what happened and the pain. That's the part that prolongs the physical pain. Any suggestions would be welcome. However I do understand the process and what's going on. I understand I need to give it time, I need to knowledge my feelings try and let them pass and concentrate on the present but sometimes its so difficult to do. Progress is not a straight upward line. That's why its good to have a forum like this to share ideas and vent. |
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joemccarthy
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 14:31:19
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Hey Chicago. It's strange the situations and settings that cause the TMS pain to come back. Sometimes its easy to figure out like right now for me work a nd finances are really stressing me out but my daughters situation is really croaking me. This morning she came over with my grandaughter and what would or should have been a very nice time turned into a literal pain in my neck. I hadn't had any pain for 10 months up until 2 or 3 days ago. I'm going back to basucs with self talk and trying not to get bummed out about the pain. Good luck at the open house. Maybe you've got old school issues that are unconscious and haunting you.
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AriG00
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 15:29:36
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Definitely, glad i could help, I would suggest just keep motivating yourself, talk to people (like myself) that know what you are going through, whatever is affecting you negativity, get rid of it, and develop a confident and tough attitude, don't let your body do whatever it wants because you are in control. Ultimately I can tell that you are causing your delay in recovery with your attitude, you need to realize that too. Work on it, if you have a messy house and that botehrs you, clean it, if you are too tense physically, try meditating, but keep your sarno therapy going. Whenever you dont like something just take care of it and dont worry or get angry, it wont help you in any way, it will add to your pain, and thats the opposite of what you want. I am no expert at this, but I've been through it, I know it sucks, and I am working on it everyday, its a struggle but in time you get better because to aquire a skill it takes consistency and a positive outlook, be consistant, and just do it, dont complain or get upset, that isnt going to help! Later!
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Originally posted by chicago
Thanks Arigoo. I have found a very good book called the "Anxiety Cure" When I read it I saw myself. It's been very helpful and I try to implement the strategies however sometimes like at my sons open house I get so anxious and frustrated because I don't get immediate relief after I try to employ a strategy. So I end up in pain until I can leave, go home and process everything. I also get angry at the time it takes. Sometimes I feel like I am making great progress and then I attend an event like the one I mentioned and experience pain and feel defeated. I also end up obsessing about what happened and the pain. That's the part that prolongs the physical pain. Any suggestions would be welcome. However I do understand the process and what's going on. I understand I need to give it time, I need to knowledge my feelings try and let them pass and concentrate on the present but sometimes its so difficult to do. Progress is not a straight upward line. That's why its good to have a forum like this to share ideas and vent.
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