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yowire
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 Posted - 01/30/2006 : 18:51:04
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To Jilly_girl,
I think that my own TMS story may shed some light on yours.
Right after I finished school my Mother died. Not only did I have to deal with intense grief but I had no chance whatsoever to recover because now that school was over, I needed to get out and find a job and start a whole new life. I now had to be an adult. Within a few weeks I came down with a virus that just would not go away. It became what was known as chronic fatigue syndrome and lasted for year after miserable year.
I've learned from Dr. Sarno that there is a primitive child in the unconscious mind of each of us that does not want the pressures of adult life. It becomes enraged at the impositions that this new stage in our lives presents. I am just beginning to get in touch with the intense internal anger that I had at the loss of my Mother and subsequently being thrust into adult life when I really didn't want to be. In order to keep this primitive child's rage repressed, the brain initiates symptoms.
I get the sense from your posts that you are going through a similar situation. However, I don't get the sense that you are acknowledging this internal anger just as I did not during that time. I thought I had a mystery virus and my emotions became caught up completely in it.
Your posts carry the feeling of a child that does not want to be an adult. You have been given adult advice from adults and have reacted like a rebellious child. I believe this could be a reflection of what is really going on in your unconscious.
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Dave
USA
1864 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2006 : 21:15:28
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Originally posted by jilly_girl
...obviously neither one of you is in any shape to give it...
Unfortunately, it is you who is in no shape to receive it.
I hope you find whatever it is you're looking for. |
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jilly_girl
USA
108 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 07:01:37
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you are nuts.
Jill |
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ralphyde
USA
307 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 11:13:04
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Jill,
You say you believe you have TMS, but I've noticed many posts where you modify Dr. Sarno's advice so that you don't have to follow it. For example, massage, which he says will just postpone your healing, and you rationalize that it's okay to feel the pleasure of it.
You don't seem to really grasp his meanings, and you modify them to suit you (your TMS). It's like an alcoholic who thinks, "well, just a little sip can't hurt."
Then you reject the solid advice of Dave who speaks directly and truthfully about TMS, with the most clarity of anyone here, and accuse him of attacking you, when he's trying very hard to help you see the light.
I sympathize with your loss of your Mom (I lost mine when I was 11, and it has affected my whole life), and I wish you a good recovery, but attitude is everything in dealing with TMS.
Best, Ralph |
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truenorth
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 11:14:44
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I find jilly girl to be negative and a real drag on this board.
I for one think she should be kicked off, ASAP. She's clearly looking for trouble.
This board has been such an asset to me personally, and to many people. She clearly does not belong here.
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jilly_girl
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 12:54:58
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the powers that be can certainly kick me off if they choose. many here seem to want only positive posts and "hooray dr sarno" NO questions asked. that simply isnt the reality some of us live with. having read the book and believing that i do have TMS hasnt removed my pain. that annoys some. tough. the point of a message board is to discuss an issue, both the positive and negative points of it. at least on most message boards. evidently here it isnt. you want only positive things said even if that is not the truth. good luck on getting people to hear you about TMS with that approach!
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Dave
USA
1864 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 14:58:05
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Nobody is "kicked off" this message board unless they habitually violate the policy.
Jill, your mind is clouded right now. You are continually defensive and adversarial. Either you don't understand what people are trying to say, or you disregard these words and substitute your own fantasies. It's too bad you can't see it, and accept that this behavior is in itself a distraction, serving the same purpose as your physical symptoms.
Perhaps you're just not ready yet. Anger and frustration are incompatible with the healing process. I'm not sure what you're looking for on this forum, but I don't think you will find it. |
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Hilary
United Kingdom
191 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2006 : 10:44:38
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Originally posted by atg
Dr. Schechter told me that most people with TMS do not improve w/ an epidural.
Hi Alan,
Do not underestimate the brain's cleverness. This would be a great opportunity for your brain to totally freak you out by "disproving" TMS. Your mind is churning this around right now, adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 15. |
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epidural injection
