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anxo69

USA
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Posted - 09/17/2005 :  00:55:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK , This whole back problem hs surfaced for me this year, june to be exact. I have recenlty sold my house and moved me and my girlfriend and daughter into my mothers for a few months so I could go buy another fixer upper. This alone has been more than stressful,but one day me and my mom were arguing (along with everbody, we are all on edge cause of our relationship etc )and I left to go look at a house . Instead of buying the house I bought the guys lawn tractor. My back was a bit sore.. normal ache. well his son loaded it up and i unloaded it when i got home , i went to lift the front end to slip a jack under it and boom , i felt something, I fell back and down i went . my back went into instant spasm, I couldnt walk. I got brought in to the living room floor, and i couldnt move a inch with out a spasm that would bring tears to my eyes and made me feel like i was gonna pass out. I stayed on that floor for 2 days, I then crawled to my room and climbed in bed, i stayed there for about a week. I would get up twice a day to try and walk, It would burn like fire! the pain would make me feel like i was gonna fall. couldnt twist or anything , I moved like I was 90.. My body was twisted like a snake . i was scared to death. i never felt such pain. well it lasted 2 months. and then it started to mellow out I could walk without a cane, My doctor said I sparained it, after that It still hurt too much , I got a mri ..2 bulged disk (lower) and ddd was the outcome , I was freaked now. he said pt .well after a couple pt's and time , i felt a bit better ..3 moths.. Im self employed with no insurance and paying for this stuff out of pocket, I havent been able to work...I started doing things again, driving too..Last week I was light raking some grass seed and felt good. I went to bed, though couldnt sleep. I finally fell a sleep about 4am. I woke up about 11 and I was al twisted again. hurt like hell to walk, my right hip was very high. I was pissed. Here we go again. well i went to lay down and rest it amd i couldnt get back up when i awoke. i went to statnd up and the pain in my back put me to the floor. I started to panic (anxiety is another problem for me) I didnt want this again , I laid my head down and I have been here for 5 days, I feel hopeless. I wanna know If this is emotional , (which I am) what do I do to get back up. I mean I have been getting up to go to the bathroom but it is such a pain, I almost crawl back in my room. I just tried to get up again and knife pain in the back , down the leg..then it locks up with nasty pain..I just slowly lay back down.. what am I doing wrong?? I have read the books, listen to the interviews..i want to believe it . but what gets you out of bed? to walk at least. well hope you can help, thanks for your time.

Edited by - anxo69 on 09/17/2005 01:08:50

art

1903 Posts

Posted - 09/17/2005 :  06:26:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't tell you what your back pain stems from, though like most back problems/spasms it is probably psychosomatic. And from what you say abouot the stress in your life, it sounds like TMS.

Fear and anxiety make these spasms much worse...they only add fuel to the fire. Relax first of all. If you need to see a doctor to help with that I might do it as a first step.

I've suffered from the same thing...crawling around on the floor for days, eating on my hands and knees like a dog, as miserable as I was helpless.

The key for me has been to think mind, not body. Have you read a book on TMS? If not, do that right away.
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Stryder

686 Posts

Posted - 09/17/2005 :  10:16:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have have all of your symptoms and pain, the lying on the floor, etc., and the sames diag tests and wrongful diagnosis (herniated disc, blah blah blah.) The worst was 1 month before my second child was born. I was a wreck, stressed out to the max.

I can feel your pain and frustration, your brain is in a vicious loopback cycle, the pain causes you to obsess about the pain and you spend all of your time trying to think when will the pain ever stop, when will I be "normal" again. The obsession causes more pain. And it goes on around and around in a circle. I bet you play the stressful circumstances in your life over and over again in your mind, like a movie that never ends. Many of us have been there so you are not alone.

After being lead in the wrong directions by the docs in regard to the cause, I finally learned about TMS and read Dr. Sarno's 2nd book, Healing Back Pain. I was saved. It took many months for complete recovery, but getting the correct diagnosis, TMS, is the key. The last 20% of the recovery may take some time.

As Art says, you need to start the reading and doing the work. You need to address the cause of your unconscious rage and anger. You need to address your psychological issues in order to get better, or else you are just playing lip service the diagnosis of TMS. Are you journaling? Are you venting your anger? For some people just knowing that TMS is the cause is not enough, they need therapy too.

Get your doc to prescribe some strong pain killers to take the edge off, so you can have a break from the pain and do your TMS work. Get pain killers not NSAIDs !

Find a TMS doc in your area.

IMPORTANT: You have to get out of bed, get off the floor, and resume your normal activities immediately !

In the end, you WILL recover. Trust Dr. Sarno, trust the TMS diagnosis. Keep the faith.

Take care, -Stryder

P.S. Just in case you need another reminder: GET UP, RESUME ACTIVITY !

Edited by - Stryder on 09/17/2005 10:38:28
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art

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Posted - 09/17/2005 :  13:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stryder, you said all this much better than I did.

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Stryder

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Posted - 09/17/2005 :  20:11:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Art, you said all the right things, I just added my 2 cents. I learned from the best, a lot of my reply is me channeling Dave :-) -Stryder


Edited by - Stryder on 09/17/2005 20:35:34
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marytabby

USA
545 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2005 :  07:06:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
None of us can be sure at first if our problem is TMS or something "physical" like a strain, as your doctor said. But all of here on this board, in the end, find out from helpful people on here that it is mind related. It's so hard to buy into this when the pain is so physical, so structural seeming. But we all have had some form of what you are going through or another form of it. FOr me it's neck and upper back mostly. Emotions bring it on all the time. My brother passed away a week ago. I have not had a flare up since March and what do you think happened this week? Neck went out. So it's pretty obvious to me that my pain IS emotional/psycho-somatic. I have to work hard at this everyday of my life but I am getting there, day by day with the help of this board. Have faith and try the reading, the journaling, try to tap into the emotions that may be festering in the subconcious. When you tell your brain you know what it's doing, and you will not stand for it, and you get back to trying some walking, or whatever physical activity you can do, it tells your brain you are not buying into it and gradually you will see improvement. You have to take a leap of faith here and try the suggestions in the books, reading, reading reading. You have to stay clear of the physical implements for a while in order to really buy into TMS. Or your brain will not accept the new thinking. Good luck to you, we're all here for you.
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anxo69

USA
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Posted - 09/18/2005 :  09:31:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you for replies, im sorry for your loss.
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Stryder

686 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2005 :  20:38:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi anxo69,

I'm just checking up on you to make sure you are up and about and starting to resume your normal activities. Yes, you can take is slow and easy to get started, just go slow and keep trying to do a bit more each day. You have to take it one day at a time.

You must unlearn your desire to effect a quick fix, or a quick recovery. You will get better, just let it take time and don't put yourself on some sort of "schedule". This whole deal is re-learning to be patient all over again.

Keep the faith. Sarno rules!

Take care, -Stryder

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anxo69

USA
36 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2005 :  00:40:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi thanks for checking. I have gotten back up yesterday and today , doing a little more each day. I also ordered the audio cassettes of healing back pain, I think Ill get more out of it. I read the book , but I like tapes. thanks again!
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