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leegold

USA
66 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2005 :  14:06:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"I have also noticed that SOMETIMES when people look to religion to save them...or any other new age stuff...SOMETIMES...they do not take enough steps to really look into themselves."

ssjs- i agree with you 100%. the only way out is through, and the only way through is hard, painful work; however, nothing truly worthwhile having in life is easy.

i am going to NY to be a part of dr sarno's follow up group session tomorrow- i'll post anything i learn of interest.

Lee
A tranquil heart is life to the body, but passion is rottenness to the bones
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Scottydog

United Kingdom
330 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2005 :  14:10:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes,
This comes up alot here. Those not in favour of certain views need to examine themselves to see why they have a problem.

Maybe it would just be plain polite if the scripture quoters assume that as this is an international website not everyone will have their religious beliefs.

I am from the uk and probably partly due to historical reasons (remember the Protestants and Catholics in N Ireland are still shooting it out (despite what the papers say) ) no one would quote religious scriptures of any sort in the pub, staff room or anywhere else.

Because it's inflammatory, because it's considered bad manners or because so few people go to churhc it would be a waste of time - who knows - it's just not done.

Anne


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art

1903 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2005 :  14:50:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's interesting Anne. Sounds very enlightened to me actually...very civilized. I like that approach.

I've actually got quite a big ax to grind when it comes to religion...It's a cover for all sorts of mischief in the world, from terrorism to bigotry to child molesting. Without doubt, more people have been killed in the name of God than in any other cause.

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Scottydog

United Kingdom
330 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2005 :  15:08:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, Art agrees with me - that's a first! but we are getting too off subject here. If i'd been a true brit I wouldn't have got involved in this discussion in the first place!!

Anne

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JohnD

USA
371 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2005 :  15:26:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We could all be polite not say anything that could remotely offend anyone else(and we would still probably offend some people) But in the real world we don't agree with everything that everyone else says, and maybe coming to terms with that is the more fruitful alternative. Then, quite possibly we might just have a place where tolerance, compassion and respect were the foundation for how we relate to each other.....and just maybe there wouldn't be so many petty arguments...and maybe just maybe LESS TMS.
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Suz

559 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2005 :  17:09:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok. I have been away from the board for a few days and just read this string of posts. What is going on here? I cannot tell you how many times I have disagreed with quotes from specific authors - in fact some of the books I am familiar with really spook me out. But if it is helping the person reading it - to uncover emotions and ideas regarding Sarno's techniques - who am I , what kind of arrogance woud I have to tell them to stop and not mention or quote from the book???? I have one author in mind but do not want to be hurtful to the person who has been reading and quoting them.
There are some serious double standards going on here. It is incredible that the word "God" - or the bible - a book that you may or may not agree with causes such disdain and anger in people. I am appalled by this lack of understanding and incredible judgement of others. Leegold was not trying to convert anyone in the posts - simply doesn't have that kind of power. What happened to tolerance and kindness?
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ssjs

USA
147 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2005 :  17:48:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, I do not mind the religious stuff, and you make good points when you say that we accept quotes from every other book except the bible...of course the reason is the condescending manner in which the bible is often brought up, people always trying to save you. But I never thought that that was what was happening here.

I also do not think that rejecting bible stuff means we have any more of a problem than the rejection of any other books. We chose what we believe and what we don't.

Anyway Leegold...good luck at Dr. Sarno's followup. the last time I saw him was around 1989. BEST thing I ever did!

In fact...Dr. Sarno saved me!
Sandy
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