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susan
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 Posted - 07/08/2004 : 10:35:44
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| i had tms a few years back..very bad back pain..i slowly overcame it with dr sarnos approach..now i seem to be having huge anxiety (during pms it is the worse)also my eyes are very tired feeling..it shifts from anxiety to the eye pain....and i notice i dwell on neg..all the time..my question is...has anyone overcame this symptom using sarnos approach? and how do you do it?..thanks in advance..susan |
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JayP
USA
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Posted - 07/08/2004 : 12:08:45
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Susan,
If you haven't read Fred Amir's book, I highly recommend it since it gives the detailed "how's" that I found missing in Sarno's books. Amazom.com carries his book. |
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 07/08/2004 : 15:06:27
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| Susan- Can you think of anything going on in your life at this time that is really bothering you? Anxiety is just a tms equivalent and can be overcome if you will work on the psychology of what is really bothering you. I had a lingering sinus infection that caused alot of eye pain and pressure. When I began working on Dr. Sarnos theories for my back pain, my eye problems, anxiety , etc. all went away at the same time. I had been using a nasal spray every day for the sinus stuff. I haven't used it in months. I promise you it is all related and you are obviously prone to tms, so begin to use the healing skills you learned with your last episode. Most of all, try not to be frightened by the symptoms, it will just make them worse. Tell them to get lost and try to think about what is really bothering you. Good luck to you! |
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susan
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Posted - 07/08/2004 : 16:26:14
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| thank you so much for the info...yes i went thru a divorce last year...which left me with alot of insecurities...bad marriage..now i am with a great guy...and i find myself expecting, even looking for problems..i start thinking something and not even knowing im doing it...then i get all anxious....now if i get anxious should i just say its tms again? susan |
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 07/08/2004 : 17:13:06
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| You can't just say it's tms. You have to really know it's tms. Logically, what else would it be? I think when we've had a tough time and things even out and become good, as life always does, we sometimes keep looking around every corner for something bad to happen. The problem with that is you never really enjoy the good stuff because you're always waiting for the bad stuff. Relax and enjoy your good relationship. This is the good stuff. Tell your tms to get lost. You don't have time for it. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/08/2004 : 21:25:56
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| Good post Susie, I feel like that a lot, waiting for the other shoe to drop. I think TMS work helps one learn how to be in the moment--to enjoy the good and combat the irrational bad. |
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 07:50:46
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Originally posted by Susie
This is the good stuff. Tell your tms to get lost. You don't have time for it.
True, but the "good stuff" in life is very often the source of repressed rage. TMS comes from the things we don't know are really bothering us inside, in one way or another.
On the one hand it is exciting to go through major life changes such as a new relationship and child. What is there to be anxious about? Life is great! Right? Not exactly.
Well, you'd be surprised to learn what's really going on with the child inside you. The child is angry about these major life changes, no matter how positive they are. The child is afraid that something might go wrong. The child is angry about the loss of freedom and independence that the new baby will bring.
The fact is there are lots of irrational emotions going on beneath the surface. Most people would say, "That's crazy, this is a great time in my life and there is no way that I am harboring ill feelings about it." They would be wrong. We are human, and we should acknowledge that these irrational feelings exist, and that TMS symptoms such as anxiety are present to distract us from them.
Susan: if you get anxious, blow the imaginary whistle. Say to yourself STOP! I know what is going on. Let's calm down and experience the feelings of this very moment, and stop thinking about the past or future. Then take a deep breath turn your thoughts towards your emotions. If you do this over and over, every time you experience symptoms, eventually you will recondition yourself to treat anxiety in a totally different light. |
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2scoops
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 09:10:18
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| Very good advice Dave. |
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susan
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 13:35:52
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| i am so glad i posted here...to hear that im not nuts...lol...yesterday i went for a long ride that i almost put off because of anxiety..i applied the same practice as when i had back pain... whenever i felt my symptoms start..at first it didnt work...but i kept at it...it worked well eventually...thanks especially susie...i wasnt being aggressive enough with it...you kind of gave me the push i needed...:) |
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Susie
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2004 : 14:03:01
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| Susan- you made my day! |
Edited by - Susie on 07/10/2004 14:04:16 |
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