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| Sylvia |
Posted - 05/29/2013 : 14:15:45
Stage 4a cancer in 65 year old male, no other health problems
Squamous cell Cancer inoperable, PET scan shows edge to edge growth in cheek, 3 lymph glands also have cancer.
In 2 days he will have most of his teeth out, then heal, then 7 weeks of chemo and radiation.
Is this usually containable and survivable? Or does this have poor odds of beating?
Thank you Ace |
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| Sylvia |
Posted - 10/10/2013 : 04:48:36
Thank you Ace.
You have given me hope. He can still be cured.
I thought this was end game.
Thank you once again Ace.
God Bless |
| Ace1 |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 19:40:34
Sylvia, that rate I gave you was if the chemo/radiation worked in the first place alone. The fact that there is still active cancer lowers the cure rate. That doesn't mean he can't be cured, but the chances are less and I can't tell you that number bc its not well documented. He should still proceed with the surgery, if possible, if they can remove all of the remaining tumor. I would still encourage TMS treatment as an adjunct. I wish the best to you and your family Sylvia. |
| Sylvia |
Posted - 10/09/2013 : 09:38:32
Ace, I hope you still come around the forum and will still help me.
It has been a challenging 5 months. He went through the full on treatments. The main tumor is still there and growing. There is next looking for someone who can do the surgery on this tumor, that is now nowhere near as extensive as before. But obviously after the heavy radiation, perhaps the surgery will not heal.
So now, dear Ace, please give me a sense of his odds now surviving out the "2-5" years. At the start of this inoperable stage IV metastisized cancer you said odds where 40%.
Give me a sense again please Ace. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 18:36:30
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Originally posted by pspa123
"one should be dubious of everything until they acquire enough personal or professional knowledge to make good choices for themselves or others"
I agree. For me anyhow, the notion of blindly following medical advice is a thing of the past.
No **** Sherlock, me too! |
| pspa123 |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 18:10:50
"one should be dubious of everything until they acquire enough personal of professional knowledge to make good choices for themselves or others"
I agree. For me anyhow, the notion of blindly following medical advice is a thing of the past. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 17:57:30
Thanks for the clarification, one should be dubious of everything until they acquire enough personal or professional knowledge to make good choices for themselves or to advise and help others. In the end you are responsible for your own health care and the decisions you make. No one comes here first, it's after a long and futile pain path.
Sorry if I confused your prostrate with someone else's--but there's so many dicks on this forum it's hard to keep them straight. If you ever have any prostrate issues, do a search for my past posts on the topic, key words: "URINARY URGENCY" and "FLOMAX". Urinary urgency can well be TMS . I've "cured" mine, got my brother over his TMS/PROSTRATE/OCD, going and going and going, to a urologist making him rich, (the urologist not my brother, although my recent tips, speaking of tips, to my bro, on FNM & FMAC haven't hurt his portfolio). There's a good recent article debunking the need to have invasive surgical procedures to prevent prostrate cancer, that may actually increase the chances of getting prostrate cancer.
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| pspa123 |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 17:31:00
Sorry if I wasn't clear. Quackwatch lists the following on the page identifying what it (Stephen Barrett, in other words) views as dubious diagnostic tests: "Tension myositis syndrome (TMS) questionnaire." My point was, and is, that in my opinion one should be wary of a site that thinks TMS is dubious.
I am sure there is valuable information to be found on quackwatch and so-called skeptic websites, but it is very easy for the establishment to play the "lack of evidence" angle when there are many potential treatments for which RCTs are not practical or it would be impossible for their proponents to get funding. The same sites often endorse the use of the most toxic prescription drugs, whose safety and efficacy allegedly have been proven in their beloved RCTs. I by no means endorse all or even any alternative treatments, but I don't think the RCT/evidence/skeptic approach is necessarily intellectually honest or unbiased.
I don't have any prostate issues; you may be confusing me with someone else.
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 17:06:59
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Originally posted by pspa123
Tom you have often debunked mainstream medicine. Sites such as quackwatch are quite mainstream, rejecting anything not proven in a randomized controlled trial.
Interestingly, quackwatch includes a TMS questionnaire on its list of dubious diagnostic tests, but does not elaborate.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/tests.html
You believe the lies you want to believe, I'm eclectic, Quackwatch does an excellent job at what they do. I have no problem with much or most of medicine except that due to it's economics there is no time for the patient who is treated with less respect and consideration for it's humanity then a car by a mechanic.
I looked up the TMS questionaire you mentioned and I don't understand what you are talking about, please explain what it was that I was supposed to see.
I took time to do some research to answer the questions and give some solid helpful references. You are using my help to now criticize me, and make me out to be a hypocrite or stupid--but let no good deed go unpunished. Instead of using me as your gang's favorite whipping boy, why don't you give some helpful suggestions to the posters here as I have tried to do. I've given you some good advice in the past on prostratitis I believe, but I guess you've forgotten that. If you can't say anything positive why don't you just lay off. I don't get paid for this, if you found something wrong with the links I provided please point them out but don't use my trying to help as a source to attack me.
Cheers,
tt/lsmft
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| Ace1 |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 13:42:28
Abundance none of those things you mention would be of help. Only the things I mentioned to Sylvia. The work is no overnight thing, it is a dedicated process that usually takes years of practice. |
| chickenbone |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 13:17:31
Sylvia, so sorry about your husband's diagnosis.
My husband spent most of his career operating on cancers of the kidneys, bladder, prostate, etc. He agrees with Ace that it is often a combination of genetic predisposition and psychological factors. However, he thinks that it is just about as likely for TMS to follow a cancer diagnosis as it is to proceed it. He believes wholeheartedly in TMS, but does not think that TMS causes cancer. However, existing TMS can make recovery from cancer more complicated.
He also agrees with Ace that, while everyone should eat a well balanced diet, that diet is not a biggie when it comes to cancer recovery. He thinks that it is sad that so many people with cancer give their money to so many charlatans, when this so-called alternative medicine almost never makes a difference.
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| jegol71 |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 11:39:13
Abundance-
My wish is for the grace of your TMShelp signature to pierce your mother from every angle during whichever treatments she chooses, and know that you both are in my thoughts.
-- Jared |
| pspa123 |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 10:00:56
Tom you have often debunked mainstream medicine. Sites such as quackwatch are quite mainstream, rejecting anything not proven in a randomized controlled trial.
Interestingly, quackwatch includes a TMS questionnaire on its list of dubious diagnostic tests, but does not elaborate.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/tests.html |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 08:46:57
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=120426
http://www.skepticnorth.com/2010/01/cannabis-cures-cancer/ |
| abundance72 |
Posted - 06/01/2013 : 08:11:43
Hi everyone, my mother has just been diagnosed with breast cancer and is going to have to get the lump removed, we're not sure at this stage whether it will be a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. She is very fearful of losing her breast at this stage. I have been researching alternative treatments over the internet and have come across two interesting treatments that I have never heard of but seem promising and people that are using these treatments are swearing by them. Ace do you or anyone know of any of these treatments? They are Black Salve paste and Cannabis Oil. I would appreciate any information if anyone can help out? Thanks 
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| Ace1 |
Posted - 05/30/2013 : 19:01:00
Pspa, your question is very similar to the question is the eczema in my new born child tms? My son when he was born had eczema. This sets forth two points. First, it cannot be from a deep history of psychological trauma. Secondly if we use the concept of strain then it is possible to occur in someone or something (dogs etc) that does not have a past. My son had somewhat of a more strained temperament when he was born. Imagine this type of temperament, what kind of reaction will this get from most parents? This reaction feeds the strain etc. Strain is a deeply felt thing that is hard to explain or just see clearly in others sometimes. I hope this answers your question. |
| pspa123 |
Posted - 05/30/2013 : 17:44:49
Do you believe cancer in young children is TMS, a TMS equivalent, whatever the right term is? |
| Ace1 |
Posted - 05/30/2013 : 17:38:53
Art, obviously I can't explain it all, if I said I could, I'd be full of it. Somehow I wonder if the gene somehow mutates with stress and is the passed down in the family and you then become very sensitive stress bc of the gene passed down from your parents. I wonder if this could be reversed and the perpetuation of this gene can stop with correct treatment. I really don't know for sure, but I have this suspicion. Just like dr sarno observed certain things in his practice that made him come up with is conclusions, this is what I am seeing. I think most of you who know tms first hand would come to the same conclusions if you were in my place. For just a few examples, tms almost always precedes the cancer dx in most cases. Cancer pain behaves just like tms, believe it or not with pain in areas where there is NO cancer. Stories such as like Dana Reeves where she was a young never smoker who died of lung cancer a few months after her husband died. We are up against a lot more with cancer than with just plain tms just as art and jegol have mentioned already.
Sylvia. Don't let that article on tube feeds scare you. Ones body is extremely efficient at getting rid of the "junk" and keeping the good. It's just temporary and I don't think it will harm him. I'm not sure if the stuff you mix together might clog the tube up. |
| Sylvia |
Posted - 05/30/2013 : 16:32:09
Ace, this feeding tube nutrition is a bunch of bull****!
http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/sick-patients-are-pumped-full-feed-tube-formula-corn-syrup-thats-produced-nestle?paging=off
CAN I MAKE MY OWN?
Likely the first two weeks of chemo/radiation he will be able to swallow, then likely 5 weeks of the stomach tube for the duration of treatment maybe longer.
What can't I make the liquid? My Sams club has a Blentec that will absolutely liquify all his normal meals. I'd add coconut oil though to every meal for calories. Also simplest to digest fat. Add gelatin too.
Why not do this?
It is insanity to give such awful nutrition and expect resolution and healing. |
| art |
Posted - 05/30/2013 : 14:59:26
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Originally posted by Ace1
Hi sylvia,
It's about a 40% cure rate with the chemo radiation at that particular stage. So it is definitely worth going through the treatments. However as I said before, I'm pretty sure the basic cause of the cancer is the same as TMS.
Ace, how do you fit certain genetic advances in understanding, treating, and even predicting cancers of different types into your strong sense that cancer is caused by the same things as TMS. (People should understand of course that this does not mean that cancer *is* TMS.) As I understand it, based on Angelina Jolie's genetic profile, she had something like an 85 percent chance of developing cancer of the breast.
Of course that 85 percent must be theoretical, they can't follow populations around in big longitudinal studies to see if those numbers are borne out in reality.
All the respect in the world for you Ace. Takes courage to buck something as powerful and monolithic as the medical establishment.. |
| balto |
Posted - 05/30/2013 : 14:48:51
Hi Sylvia, wishing you the best.
The article in the below post maybe of some help or encouragement.
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7668
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