| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 01/27/2007 : 21:32:02
Hi Friends,
Is it any wonder the tightness is back in my skull..I am also having some pain in the left hand again..I have been back in Vegas for 2 weeks..And the conflicts inside are unparalleled..I feel like I am living a double life..one here and one in NYC..And I suppose there is alot of repressed rage and sadness about many areas of life...I won't bore you with the details..It's just a tough time..The good news is that my doggies are thrilled to see me, and they calm me greatly...I don't know if any of your read the other post wherein I was telling those who showed some interest that my website is finally finished..text and all..check it out if you get a chance..
www.karenwallo.com
I hope no one yells at me for suggesting this..I won't do it again..I suggested it b4 prematurely when it was only 1/4 of the way done..I am very excited because this is the first time I had my own website for my art..so I just want to share..Hope to hear from some of my buddies on here..and from anyone who can relate to this post..
Hugs and God bless,
Karen |
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 03/16/2007 : 14:48:29
Wow,
What a wonderful thing to say, Crybaby...thank you so much!!!...You and Shawn have made my day! I am having my website updated as we speak and some new pieces are up...Please feel free to check it out...It is my honor to share with people who appreciate my work!
I do still suffer, quite a bit, neck, chest pains sometimes and lately stomach issues (and it's all just TMS stress over typical life issues, relationships, finances, etc...)...And recently, the little girl in me was feeling a bit left out on here...(who knows why these silly insecurities crop up..) Anyway, I feel so much more welcome after these comments! Thank you for that!
God bless and big hugs!!!
Karen |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 03/16/2007 : 12:26:41
I hope Karen continues to post her website. She obviously thinks we are important enough in her life to share something so special as her art work with us. Personally, I am flattered.
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Sarno-ize it!
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| Crybaby |
Posted - 03/15/2007 : 14:20:02
Hi Karen and everyone.
You all seem like wonderful people, suffering from many symptoms that I have as well and it is just tremendous to have you here. Thanks for letting me join the club.
Karen, your artwork is beautiful and so are you. You are an inspiration to me, as you describe all the pain you go through and still manage to paint such unbelievable pictures. It almost makes me want to cry its so wonderful.
Thank you again for just being here. |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 02/06/2007 : 09:59:27
Hi Friends,
I am still experiencing some TMS symptoms in various locations..The TMS-Mitral valve issue calmed down..thank God...
What I am dealing with, stress wise, centers around both financial issues and worrying about loved ones..It seems that several of my closest people, my boyfriend, my neice..(for example)..are going through major life trials..I need not get into details here..I am just very worried about them and I was wondering how others deal with this sort of stress to prevent the TMS from kicking in more..Do you just journal about it and apply the usual TMS techniques? Or is there another method of releasing, protecting yourself from being too much of an empath? I take in others' pain and suffering like a sponge..I hurts me deeply to think that my closest people are suffering so much right now..And I can feel this worry energy going straight to the back of my head again and my upper neck..
On a positive note, I am working on a commission(a painting of Pluto in space) and when I paint, I do relax and get into 'the zone..' That is very helpful, but I find that the knee TMS makes me have to sit and paint more then I would prefer...B4 all the knee injuries, I used to stand the entire time I painted..Now I cannot..The piece still comes out just as good whether I sit or stand, but I just prefer standing..As I lose weight I am sure the knee will feel better as well..Hope you are all healing well...:)
Thanx for listening,
~Karen |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 01/31/2007 : 13:08:52
Dear Greg and Alexis,
Thank you so much for your support and wisdom! I have changed my profile and put my website address there, that was a good idea!...I didn't even think to do that..I have so much stress in my life right now that I am getting chest pains..That is why I am chosing to not even talk anymore to anyone who becomes sarcastic or nasty for any reason...I cannot handle any additional stress right now...Again thanx to the both of you and the other wonderful friends I have on this site!
God bless and hugs,
Karen |
| HelenB |
Posted - 01/31/2007 : 08:58:13
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Originally posted by tennis tom
I personaly don't care if SA plugs her art, but I support HelenB's right to point out that it is clearly against stated board policy. SA knows this and even stated in the past that she wouldn't do it again.
Thanks, Tom. That's all I'm sayin' She plugged her art once and it caused a little controversy, and here she is doing it again. That's all I'm sayin'.
Karen, I do owe you an apology for doubting if you have TMS. Of course, you do. If anything, I think you have it so bad you expect people to "go easy" on you because you're in so much pain. I'm sorry for saying that I doubted you had TMS. No doubt.
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Originally posted by singer_artist
I have made many friends on here and rather then write each one separately, this was an easier way to share..
Let me point out that Wavy_Soul did the proper and tasteful thing, by putting her commercial web site in her profile notes. If Karen really wanted to "tell all her friends" about her site, all she has to do is remind people to check her profile for her site. |
| alexis |
Posted - 01/31/2007 : 07:49:44
Greg- Funny, I was going to make a reference on legalism, with a boring and only pseudo-relevant reference to the old Chinese legalist period. Thank goodness you made a more appropriate reference before I got started.
I'm not going to get into the main question again; I said what I wanted to in the previous thread. I support Karen and personally have no problem with the listing of her site, but I can see how the more legalist position might be opposed. No, what I am going to do is take back my promise not to go "Miss Manners" on this, by doing just that.
From Miss Manners Guide for the Turn of the Millennium, pp121-122
"[Miss Manners] is sorely tried by would-be etiquetteers who report legitamate instances of other people's outrageous behavior and then triumphantly recount how they smashed 'em one in order to further the cause of good manners. The challenge of manners is not so much to be nice to someone whose favor and/or person you covet (although more people need to be reminded of that necessity than one would suppose) as to be exposed to the bad manners of others without imitating them.
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Miss Manners understands perfectly well that one reason retaliatory rudeness is popular is that the only alternative imagined is saintly (or wimpy) sufferance. Not at all. Polite fighting back requires discipline and often patience, but it actually works better. The first line of defense is to offer a face-saving way for the offender to retreat from the offense...Transgressions that cannot be allowed to pass so easily because of their consequences require more persistent politeness.
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But even if correcting others' behavior unasked were not in itself a violation of etiquette, the sad fact is that you cannot give instant etiquette lessons that will casually change people's behavior for the better. Such engagements are only too likely to lead instead to a change of hostilities characterized by further rudeness."
In case anyone thinks that I have some excessive goodist tendancy that has me reading Miss Manners daily, I had to search the basement for this quote, not having opened the book in years. But I do think there are standards which are disrupting when not maintained, and there are ways to handle perceived violations of etiquette.
Btw Karen, whatever else you do, you really ought to put your website in your bio so those of us who are interested can easily find it in the future. Thanks. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 01/31/2007 : 06:48:21
"...it's all about the emotions, folks!"
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It sounds like Helen B was practicing that principle with her emotional reaction. I don't think she was projecting. To be projecting she would have to have posted her web site. I think Helen B may have overstated her position a tad but given the historical context of SA having broken that forum rule before, Helen B's frustration may have some basis in fact. Not picking sides here, just trying to be fair and balanced. |
| floorten |
Posted - 01/31/2007 : 05:28:57
How can you even question if someone who's made over 700 posts "even has TMS"?!!
There's a difference between just pointing out a rule and being rude and disrespectful. We've had spammers in the forum for sure, but Karen isn't one of them.
In Brady's book he talks about the "legalist" personality type suffering from TMS- the ones who expect the world to all stick to the rules, and who rage against any small deviation from them as if it was a personal attack. This thread seems to offer good support to his theory!
I guess it's good to be in touch with this type of anger, but it's not really helpful to project it onto others here. The idea that rules are more important than feelings has probably contributed to many people here getting TMS. Remember rule 1 - it's all about the emotions, folks! Think psychological!
peace out!
greg
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"What the Thinker thinks, the Prover proves."
Robert Anton Wilson |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 23:07:05
We'll have to agree to disagree on this Tom..very strongly..Take care,
Karen |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 22:21:58
"As for breaking the rules, you are one of the top people on here who has engaged in many off topic subjects, including the infamous thread I started about global warming awhile ago, to name just one.."
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Not so SA. You started that topic, all I did was rebut misinformation. You are going off-topic again, we were discussing advertising business websites. As I said, I don't give a hoot if you post your web-site, I just felt it was unfair to HelenB to pile on her when she was abosolutely right in calling you on it. If I were busted for breaking the rules, I would be contrite and apologetic rather than combative.
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 21:49:18
PS...Also, as I mentioned in the initial post..When I shared my site the first time it was only 1/4 of the way done..I was so excited about it, I shared it prematurely..That is another reason why I shared it again..It is finally complete..I don't do well with downright nastiness and sarcasm so...Again and again, thanx to ACL, Nor and Wrldtrv for your kind support that softened the blow..:))Guess being an artist and musician with TMS makes me extra sensitive..
ACL,
Your thought about my art evoking emotions and therefore being even 'on topic' was awesome!! Thank you!
Hugs,
Karen |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 21:36:20
Hi Tom,
Thanx, I think...I sometimes find your messages confusing as to where you are coming from..that had gotten us into trouble in the past..I do appreciate the comment about hoping I can sell some art to see Dr. Sarno, that would be wonderful..Appreciate the well wishes in this regard...
As for breaking the rules, you are one of the top people on here who has engaged in many off topic subjects, including the infamous thread I started about global warming awhile ago, to name just one..
I put up the site address one more last time as per the request of Shawn who kindly said that seeing beautiful things was a positive contribution to the board...Thank you Shawn!
There were others who had no problem whatsoever with me sharing my work since the website is brand new and a big part of my life..I have made many friends on here and rather then write each one separately, this was an easier way to share..
This website has been a very long time coming and I have endured great pain on many levels, as you know, for quite a long time...I just wanted to share something POSITIVE for a change...Is there really something that terribly wrong with that? I am not planning on making a habit of it, as I stated clearly...
It is the last and final time I will ever mention my site on here again, except in response to something in this thread...I also spoke of some TMS issues I am dealing with at the same time...In any case, I still think and, I am not alone, that Helen was out of line with her sarcastic and nasty message. I never meant any harm and to accuse me of not even having TMS was also way out of line..Thank God for Nor, ACL and Wrldtrv!
Enough said..I don't feel well enough to get into another argument with you, that is for sure..Thanx again for the well wishes on the art...
~Karen |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 21:03:39
"...Guess Helen has some anger issues she needed to project somewhere.."
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No, I think HelenB is just angry that the rules of the board are being broken. She is not projecting but is being quite direct about what is angering her.
I personaly don't care if SA plugs her art, but I support HelenB's right to point out that it is clearly against stated board policy. SA knows this and even stated in the past that she wouldn't do it again.
Although this board is used for support, that was never the intent of it's founder AustinGary. It's purpose is to educate and disucuss TMS "knowledge" which is what Dr. Sarno states is the medicine that is required to "cure" TMS psychosomatic pain.
E-mail is available for personal messages. Support without TMS knowledge/penicilin is enabling and counter-productive.
I hope SA sells some of her art and that the first thing she does with the proceeds is make an appointment to see the Good Doctor. |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 20:08:04
Thanks so much Nor! Your message made me feel so good..I am glad you enjoyed the art! My TMS is flaring up, big time, right now...Knee and neck at the same time...I guess I have to get back to the journaling again...I never did that seriously enough..So busy with my art,but that's no excuse..The extra weight from the holidays isn't helping my health either..Gives the TMS more of an excuse to play it's games with me..Hope you are doing great! Thanx again my friend!
Hugs,
Karen |
| Nor |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 19:57:54
Oh yeah, one more thing. Helen B. - we're also not supposed to harass eachother on this forum either. "Get a clue"? Please. My 4th-grader says that. -Nor |
| Nor |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 19:55:25
Karen,
Your paintings are absolutely stunning. The brilliant colors just draw you in. The impressionist ones are my favorite. I wish you the best w/your talent. -Nor |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 19:03:44
Oh my goodness...Thank you soooo much ACL for standing up for me against the over the top attack...Guess Helen has some anger issues she needed to project somewhere..
I sooo appreciate the compliments on my art, you are very kind!
And all Helen would have to do is go back to many months ago and see all my posts about being completely incapacitated for months from TMS..I had no website then..I was just trying to share something positive..You always uplift me...I can't thank you enough!
Hugs and blessings my friend,
Karen |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 15:51:46
I guess that Dave will do what he wants. It's his forum. If he has a problem with Karen's posts, he will no doubt tell her. You don't need to do his job.
In my experience Dave is a very reasonable guy, and the policies are intended to prevent abusive behavior -- not to regulate people's pleasant personal communication about their lives and their experiences with TMS. Insofar as I think Karen's art is extremely expressive of emotions and could be helpful to evoke emotions in other viewers, it's even on-topic.
Seriously, just walk away from the thread if you don't like it.
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Wherever you go, there you are. |
| HelenB |
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 10:26:34
Advertising is explicitly talked about in the Policy. See "Policy" link above. I guess we should have Dave re-write the policy to say advertising is OK if you are a regular poster. |
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