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| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 03:24:31
hi, I would like to ask you if you have no psychological problems trying to reveal the hidden emotions. I mean the depression, cry attacks or others. I know that according to dr Sarno this can be kind of "catarsis" but I feel no relieve after that. |
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| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/23/2005 : 01:32:13
Lady, this should bea list only of an anger, or also of a sadness, a fears, a wishes?
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| ladyrat |
Posted - 12/22/2005 : 06:47:22
Gevorgyan:
There isn't anything, at least in my experience, that you need to "do" with your anger. What I did was sit down and make a list of everything that I was angry about and review it along with my daily reminders. |
| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/22/2005 : 01:46:52
As I remember me before this year of TMS the was strong assurance in conscious that any pain come in– must go out.
And with my back was like that – I was following the doctor advises – staying, home resting and so one. And my wonderful mother came to me saying: “You know, our neighbor has back pain for 25 years till now, and she said that you would either get rid of it or it will stay forever”. Now I know that was a single doubt that was immediately used by naughty kid in my mind – “If such a case happens and now you know about it, you will get it”.
There was doubt, then was fear and then the pain remained.
TMS free people do not think seriously of any pain. But from the other hand, we mustn’t ignore emotional reasons when we finally found them out.
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| JohnD |
Posted - 12/21/2005 : 09:38:04
How does your husband react when he gets pain? I think everyone at one time or another gets TMS pain, but some people just interpret and react to it differently and that is often the difference between the pain leaving or becoming chronic. |
| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 13:28:20
John, sorry can you develop the sentence: “thought patterns about their body in relation to pain”. I really want to understand you well (and I am going to use my husband in this area : ) |
| JohnD |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 09:47:24
Assuming he is pretty much TMS free, one way in which he could support you is by talking to you about his own thoughts related to his own aches and pains. People who are TMS free usually have healthier (for lack of a better word) thought patterns about their body in relation to pain. That is one reason why they don't have TMS or atleast as much as people who suffer more drastically with TMS. |
| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 07:22:29
he is in the middle of it, but you know, he has bigger distance to any novelty than I do. |
| JohnD |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 07:05:42
Gevorgyan,
Has your husband read the books? That could be a good start for him so he has a basic understanding.
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| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 06:30:11
John is not suffering any more : ) |
| n/a |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 05:44:01
quote:
Originally posted by JohnD
Well I try not to think in all or none or always or never. From my personal experience there is always room to learn, grow and change.
From reading your posts, its very easy to tell why you have TMS.
Be kind John, we are all suffering here and don't need this. |
| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 01:28:04
thanks Goldie!
Revealing those things together should be easier for sure. |
| goldie |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 01:25:16
Include your partner by getting them to assist you in developing a list of possible causes of repressed unconscious rage. Your partner may actually be able to identify some reasons that you may not be aware of. |
| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/20/2005 : 01:22:24
You know this sounds like: If you are not the Negro you must go deeper to find you are. And let’s assume: I know me a little.
BUt...
I am so happy the I have entered this forum, really. Atavistic I fell well being in the troop of “believers” and I have so many question to you…
Please write me: do you have any idea how to include your partner (my husband in my case) in recovery process? I feel that he can be very helpful, but he would like to know what exactly to do for me.
Any ideas? Any experiences?
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| JohnD |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 15:46:25
Well I try not to think in all or none or always or never. From my personal experience there is always room to learn, grow and change.
From reading your posts, its very easy to tell why you have TMS.
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| n/a |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 15:39:45
yes it is true, sorry John but this is pure Sarno. Anything that smacks of behavior modifcation is not a TMS treatment. You may change your outward behavior, but what is on the inside will stay with you regardless. Ask any pyscho-therapist. |
| JohnD |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 15:33:59
quote:
Since you are a TMS personality you will have certain ways of re-acting to things in your life. You will never change this about yourself no matter how hard you try. quote:
Untrue. |
| n/a |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 15:32:48
quote:
Originally posted by gevorgyan
only the 5th one seems familiar the rest is totally not of me.
so how to make the people to appreciate me or how to decrease my need of appreciation?
You don't have to do anything. You just have to recognize this characterisitc in yourself. There is no need to change it or try to get people to like you. If you do not have these other characteritics I may suspect you are in denial and need to dig a little deeper. |
| h2oskier25 |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 13:12:13
Wow, PeterMckay
You may not be describing gevorgyan (at least that she thinks so), but you're sure describing me.
I have been pain free since Oct 1 of this year. Quite the accomplishment since I suffered debilitating wrist pain for 8 years. God, hard to believe I sacrificed so much of my life to this.
I have to thank Nate Mcnamara and his site www.conquerrsi.com for pointing me in the right direction, as well as encouraging me when I changed jobs and got a relapse. Also, Ken at Dr. Sarno's office, who finally reassured me that my unconscious was having a 'party' at my expense. From that moment on, it was like somebody flipped a switch. I started healing and never felt pain again, except minor pain and it goes away as soon as I think Psychologically and not Physically.
I have to encourage people to keep up the fight. It did NOT take me 8 years to overcome this. It took me 7.5 years to find the solution and the rest of the time was spent committing to the solution and exploring my emotions.
I won't lie, I have some dark days, but this is my personality, and my current life situation, which is clearly in need of improvement. It's much better to feel alive and know what you really want and pursue it, than to repress all of your emotions to pretend you're happy.
I really feel this was the case with me. I couldn't bear to look at my life closely for fear I'd have to face up to wasting the last few years being unhappy, so I perpetuated the myth that all was well.
Thanks, Peter, Nate, Ken and all those who have helped me get my life back. Words cannot express my gratitude.
To all those still suffering, keep up the fight, it's worth it.
Beth |
| gevorgyan |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 12:13:23
lady, and then what to do with this knowledge? |
| ladyrat |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 12:09:02
Personally, I found that it is not necessary to express the anger, but just to acknowlege that it is there. |
