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| holly |
Posted - 12/03/2005 : 10:06:29
After having breast implants for 7 years I hurt myself on this exercise machine. That was this past august. It has been pretty bad especially after driving, getting in & out of my car, lifting and stretching up for something simple. I have been to 3 plastic surgeons. One said I weakened the capsule that forms around the implant and I need to operate. The 2nd said it is scar tissue pain, also operate & the 3rd. said I tore a muscle in my chest and it needs time to heal. (my implants are in front of the muscle) The MRI doesn't show much to speak of and cannot show tears etc. Aside from the pain, I can feel them now rolling around inside me which was not that way before. My husband keeps saying not to rule out TMS and I just get madder when he say's this because I know I really did something bad in there. The thing is that maybe a week before I had mentioned to him "thank god I don't have a problem with my breast implants" when talking about another problem to him. Obviously TMS can make a condition feel worse, but what is the possibility that this can be all TMS. The pain is always there but is always worse after a busy day of running around, cleaning, driving etc. This is starting to drive me crazy. Any input? |
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| holly |
Posted - 01/16/2006 : 17:50:29
Candy,
Check out www.explantation.com. I actually found out about it from here! But I warn you you (like I) are not going to like the reality of what you read. I worry every time I go to that site but i know they are right! Let me know what you think. |
| elise8 |
Posted - 01/13/2006 : 10:35:16
If you know they have ruptured, as it seems they have since you were in a car wreck, then I say have them removed. I have posted in this thread and mentioned a web site to go to if you have questions about removal. My sister in law was just in a car wreck. I did not know she had implants. I just found out. She is having them removed ASAP as the shoulder strap also ruptured hers. I also had a friend who had hers removed because of rupture. She is very happy now with no implants. She has been detoxing for a year becaUse after the rupture the silicone migrated all over her body causing severe symptoms.
Ruptured implants need to be taken out, do not let anyone tell you otherwise. Also not all ruptures show up on mammograms. An ultrasound can be more diagnostic or if you notice the shape has changed or any pain.
Take care
Elise
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| Candy |
Posted - 01/11/2006 : 16:32:52
Hi my name is Candy i have had my breast implants for 15 yrs and was involved in an auto accident , couseing them to rupture due to the shoulder restraint .. im am looking for any information i can find regarding this type of injury and with what frequency this occurs as i can not find any info in my area , any replies would be greatly wellcomed . |
| holly |
Posted - 12/21/2005 : 20:25:03
I saw a professiional in NYC and she advised me that I would come out all deformed looking if I removed my implants so i am not doing anything since I am not sick (right now) from them. I did however post on that site about this forum as I think 50% of the people there just might belong here!!
Happy Holidays All! |
| holly |
Posted - 12/17/2005 : 07:58:36
I didn't get the surgery done yet.( sorry if I made it seem that way) I will be doing it in March. That is my plan. I am very scared as it is big surgery and it absorbs much of my time as far as thinking and researching about it etc. I am bummed that I even have to deal with this!! It us always lurking there in my mind!! |
| almost there |
Posted - 12/14/2005 : 18:41:16
Holly,
I probably would say nothing and wear the padded bra...at least for the immediate time being....give yourself a break....you have been through enough for right now....you don't owe anyone anything....really.....you don't have to be explaining to every Tom, Dick and Harry what's what with you....there will be plenty of time later to send your message....should you chose to do so! I applaud you for having your implants removed...this could not have been an easy decision....regardless of the discomfort you were experiencing....I think you have done the right thing....this is your life, your health and your quality of life we're talking about! Be good to yourself....be well! |
| art |
Posted - 12/14/2005 : 15:15:17
Hi Holly,
I don't think I'm of much used to you on this question. It's such a personal thing.
Since you had such a big change to begin with, people must have noticed and presumably you were comfortable with that.
Since I'm a pretty private person, I wouldn't tell anyone anything unless they asked. Even then my answers might vary depending on who was doing the asking...
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| holly |
Posted - 12/13/2005 : 16:31:09
So I would like all of your opinions on whether I should be out and open about my implant removal or buy a padded bra(which I will anyway) and keep my mouth shut. I feel equal each way to go on this but must pick one. I would love your opinions on this! It's a tough call! (I went from an A cup to a D cup by the way) |
| art |
Posted - 12/09/2005 : 17:17:45
Hi Anne,
Actually, I would say "decent" means the same thing here, though that can change slightly depending on context. One might say, so and so is a "decent" musician, meaning he's average, or a cut above average, but not spectacular. But when used in a moral sense, so and so is a "decent" person, it means that he or she is a "good" person, with a "good" heart, and "good" values...
I agree with what you say about men and cosmetic surgery. There's an awful lot of pressure on both sexes to look good. In my mid-fifties now, I'm more aware of that than I used to be. In the last few years, I've noticed I've become pretty invisible to younger females..Even though I'm not single, this is a painful thing I've found..I used to really enjoy going into a store say, and getting a nice smile from the gal behind the cash register...I can only imagine how it must be to women of a comparable age...Looks are so over-valued in our society, and for most of us it's a struggle to accept the inevitable changes that come with the advancing years...No wonder so many people, men and women both, opt for surgery... |
| n/a |
Posted - 12/09/2005 : 02:07:01
In my part of the world, Art - to call someone decent is a high compliment - it means honest and honourable - an all round good person. It's easy to forget that there are differences in how words are used in different areas of the English speaking world.
Having said that - I think you are on to something when you suggest that I might believe that deep down men like my husband and yourself don't really believe that a woman's worth is not measured by her chest measurement.
It's a case or my conscious brain accepts and believes it, but the subconscious does not. This is the first time that I have seriously thought about the real reasons why I opted for such serious surgery - at the time, I remember saying to my husband that there was evidence that psychologically women who have reconstructive surgery do better than those who don't.
It was the first question that I asked the anaesthetist on waking from the general anaesthetic, "Has she (the surgeon) done my reconstruction?' My thoughts were not on the removal of cancer - they were on my appearance. That says a lot about my true feelings, I think.
You know what I find disheartening about all this emphasis on appearance these days? It seems to getting worse all the time. (Can you believe this? The radio is on in the background right now - and there is a discussion going on, on whether it is ethical to give cosmetic surgery vouchers as Christmas gifts).
Men are falling into the trap as well. Time was that most men did not worry about their appearance nearly as much as women, but that is changing - cosmetic surgery is on the agenda of more and more men now as well.
I'm still glad I had that surgery, though, and if there are health problems in the future because of it, well , that's my own fault - I went into it knowing the risks.
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| Scottydog |
Posted - 12/08/2005 : 13:37:42
Hi folks,
When you think how important looks are to us, especially in our teens, we should expect to feel some suppressed rage for not being one of the lucky ones with nice features and a great figure.
anne
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| art |
Posted - 12/08/2005 : 11:28:43
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The thing is - decent men can tell us, till they are blue in the face, that we are fine as we are, but the drip-drip effect of present-day attitudes gets to most of us.
Just to add, for my part, I found your use of the word "decent" interesting, Anne. I think it subtly reveals that the kind of thinking that compelled you to get surgery still persists, as if men like your husband, and perhaps myself, are only being "decent"...."polite," and that underneath we really don't mean what we say...
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| art |
Posted - 12/08/2005 : 09:05:01
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It's interesting that you say it's different for women who have implants because of cancer surgery, Art. I have heard that said often, but really it is no different. It's just a particularly extreme example of what some women (and I'm self-aware enough these days to know why I subjected myself to very major surgery that was not needed for my recovery) will do to for their appearance
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You're right Anne, it is no different, not really. I knew that when I wrote it, but in my desire to avoid hurting anyone's feelings, I found myself bending over backwards with qualifiers...
I saw an exhibition of a series of photographs taken of women who'd had one or both breasts removed..I found the photos quite powerful, all the more so because these women were so beautiful..
There's nothing in the way of breast size, or even breasts themselves, that can make a woman any less womanly, any less beautiful.. |
| n/a |
Posted - 12/08/2005 : 02:25:21
'I wish more women would understand just how heartbreakingly beautiful they already are, just as God made them...'
That's just it, Art - most women don't like their own body. In a recent study here in the UK a huge majority reported that they were not happy with their body and would like to change at least one part of it. I suspect that it is not that different in the US either.
The question is, why? The answer is certainly complex and pretty deep-rooted. All kinds of pressures are at work here - among them - the huge power of the advertisers of products and services that aid 'beauty'. One pernicious advert for a face cream that aired for months and months over here on our TV stations and in magazines had the punchline, 'Let surgery Wait,' in other words, cosmetic surgery is a natural development in a woman's life, but our cream will do the job, for now.
We have a disgusting culture of 'Laddism' here in Britain (I don't think the US has quite the same probelm - at least to the same degree). There are a whole raft of magazines aimed at young men; I'm not talking about the usual porn, like Playboy or Penthouse; they have naked women draped all over the place, of course, but they are full of 'advice to the lads', on how to get women into bed and they berate any female who does not conform to the pneumatic, ever-sexually available stereotype. One of them even had a competition to win a 'boob-job' for your girlfriend. To be fair the Press Complaints Authortiy censured them for that. Most of them are published weekly and can be bought in every store that stocks magazines.
The thing is - decent men can tell us, till they are blue in the face, that we are fine as we are, but the drip-drip effect of present-day attitudes gets to most of us.
It's interesting that you say it's different for women who have implants because of cancer surgery, Art. I have heard that said often, but really it is no different. It's just a particularly extreme example of what some women (and I'm self-aware enough these days to know why I subjected myself to very major surgery that was not needed for my recovery) will do to for their appearance.
My husband was distressed that I wanted to go through a huge procedure that involved removing a muscle from my back and inserting an implant to consrtuct a replacement breast. There I was, happily married to the man I love, telling him that I was having the operation anyway - even though he didn't want me to.
This is an interesting topic - not directly relevant to TMS issues, perhaps, but dissatisfaction with one's appearance may well be a factor in the development of psychologically induced physical pain. |
| holly |
Posted - 12/07/2005 : 17:41:15
art,
He always pushes TMS. Always. |
| art |
Posted - 12/07/2005 : 06:25:11
Hi Holly,
Who knows, but sounds like maybe your husband is kind of invested in them for some reason...
Does he always push TMS, or is it just with this situation...
I would be very careful about applying the TMS model to a situation like yours anyway...
Since they're not doing you any real good, I'm not sure there's a lot to be gained..
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| holly |
Posted - 12/07/2005 : 06:09:08
Art,
I thought my husband was with me on this but when I told him I was in severe pain yesterday after driving around , opening doors etc. he started bringing up TMS again! I went balistic! The problem with TMS and husbands (or wives I guess) is that if you have experienced TMS in the past on numerous occasions they start thinking EVERYTHING that happens to you involves it! Now that worries me! It is pretty bad that he thinks this breast implant problem is TMS just because it gets worse when I drive and open doors! For goodness sake why wouldn't the pulling etc. inflame the situation!! I'm pissed! It's Enough that I have to deal with this problem in the first place.  |
| art |
Posted - 12/07/2005 : 06:08:30
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wish the world was populated with more men like you!
But that's just my point.....it is. There a certain distinct minority mindset..let's call it the "stripclub mindset" where size, at the expense of naturalness is the most important thing...But these are just the guys you probably won't be interested in...These fellows are either looking at their wives or girlfriends as status symbols,or maybe they have some sort of fetish...
Again, I want to be careful to qualify everything I'm saying...these are just generalizations..always exceptions..
But the thing is, the love of the female body..that is the real female body...has evolved over the ages..it's hardwired in and does not kick in at the site of basically fake chemical balls in the spot where real breasts are supposed to be...Now it might kick in for some men at the sight of a well endowed woman with fake breasts when her clothes are on, so yes, you might get some mileage there, if that's the kind of thing you like, but when it matters most there's just nothing to be gained, and in fact much to be lost..
I wish more women would understand just how heartbreakingly beautiful they already are, just as God made them... |
| art |
Posted - 12/07/2005 : 05:49:44
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I decided that I am going to remove them after reading the other site. I never thought I would feel that way but they don't seem as important to me anymore. One thing I do know for sure is that if I have to operate it would be to remove NOT replace. It is just a matter of how to fit it in. I am trying to find out how long of a recooperation is involved. Right now my left breast is acheing like crazy after driving alot today. opening and closing the car door 20 times doesn't help either! Thanks for your support!
Good for you Holly. There's just no good reason to go through all the pain and potential health issues...By the way, I don't blame you for being annoyed at your husband... |
| holly |
Posted - 12/06/2005 : 17:45:29
Art & elise,
I decided that I am going to remove them after reading the other site. I never thought I would feel that way but they don't seem as important to me anymore. One thing I do know for sure is that if I have to operate it would be to remove NOT replace. It is just a matter of how to fit it in. I am trying to find out how long of a recooperation is involved. Right now my left breast is acheing like crazy after driving alot today. opening and closing the car door 20 times doesn't help either! Thanks for your support! |
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