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donnroc
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 Posted - 10/31/2016 : 08:47:12
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Hi Everyone,
Anyone experiencing joint pain, particularly in ring finger?
I am a professional piano player..... Sometimes pretty pissed off at the music business and insecurities of being an artist.... wondering if that could be the problem. The "doctor" said to go on Mediterranean diet and take fish oil .... ummmm
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tennis tom
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Posted - 10/31/2016 : 11:03:36
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By "doctor" do you mean a physician/M.D., or some other form of doc like a "chiro" or a philosophical type of doctor ?
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Dr. Sarno is now retired, if you call this number you will be referred to his associate Dr. Rashbaum.
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donnroc
USA
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Posted - 10/31/2016 : 18:50:11
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| Thanks Tom..... an acupuncturist/neutralist ..... |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 10/31/2016 : 20:02:13
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Originally posted by donnroc
Thanks Tom..... an acupuncturist/neutralist .....
Have you ever seen a hand-specialist M.D.? |
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donnroc
USA
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Posted - 11/02/2016 : 07:59:21
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| No I haven't seen a specialist.... |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 11/02/2016 : 14:06:08
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Well, I would consider it since it's effecting your profession. There are doctors out there who specialize in hands. They haven't seen any symptom you don't have. Or, see a TMS physician for an objective opinion. But seeing a hand surgeon is a two edged sword--or scalpel.If they are money and cut happy they will favor a surgical procedure perhaps even if it's TMS. If they are objective from an allopathic traditional medicine perspective, they may recommend a conservative, non-surgical approach.
I've been told by two TMS physicians that my hip is NOT TMS and to get a hip-replacement, sooner then later--that was over a decade ago. In the meantime, I've managed to live a productive and fun life without being cut. Play tournament level tennis everyday, run a half hour daily (in the pool), drive cross-country 8,000 miles and back, in hundred year blizzards in my Jeep, and work full time. Maybe someday I'll submit to the knife, but they call it a medical "practice", so when they're done "practicing", and come up with a better solution then amputating my femur and acetabulum, I'll resist a hip-replacement, when maybe a little "teflon" in my joint might do the trick--I do go to the dentist for an occasional filling and even a root-canal.
I didn't go into the above to make me seem like such a great guy, but instead to show that life can go on with-out surgery even if it would eliminate the pain as I've seen for many of my tennis playing acquaintances who've had it and constantly badger me to do the same.
Back to you--or your hand. I've seen you post around here and am surprised you haven't been to a hand-specialist yet. Most TMS'ers have seen all the docs by now. Like I said it's a two edged sword, they may tell you it's normal and treat you conservatively relieving your worries--or be cut happy and start talking about scheduling you for surgery--which Dr. Sarno says is our best PLACEBO. A specialist's opinion may get you off the fence, hopefully being told it's benign and it fades away in due time. As I've written in my case, just because they tell you it may require surgery, doesn't mean you have to go through with it. You can then consult with a TMS physician for "another" opinion.
Curious why you haven't seen a hand specialist yet?
Boilerplate: I'm only a tennis player and not a doctor of any sort, and this is just my 2 cents over the internet. See a doc to rule out anything serious like cancer, infection, dis-ease or structural trauma. |
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donnroc
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Posted - 11/03/2016 : 17:21:49
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Thanks Tom,
I haven't seen a specialist for a few reasons..... I am a veteran of many TMS episodes.... starting with lower back 20 years ago. I read Sarno's mind over back and it did the trick. I never never experienced that level of pain again. Then there were equivalent episodes over the years.. knee pain ( in both knees) to the point of barely walking,
Lock Jaw, heel pain, chest pain, and shoulder pain. All of which dissipated with time and referring back to the books ( body Mind persribtion etc.)
I'm reluctant to go to a specialist because deep down I believe it's TMS, I mean with the experiences I have had I'm beginning to believe everything that is not acute is TMS. After all as Sarno says, If the largest bone (Femeur) in our body where snapped in half it would heal through natural process in 8 to 10 weeks.
I mean it sounds to me that you are quite an example of moving beyond medical diagnosis yourself.
I actually did find a TMs "lecturer here in the Northwest.
We have become friends. I told him about some shoulder pain
and my life's story covering the last few years. Because he is not a practicing M.D. any more, but full time TMS lecturer he still suggested seeing a doctor to rule out any heavy hitters but in light of my story was pretty sure it was TMS.
The other problem I have with specialist is this idea of segmenting the body. I don't think ailments just pop up in various parts of the body without being connected to some issue, again the exception being an acute injury like over use ( in my profession).
Anyway I think the reason I posted was just to connect with a community of people like yourself who are willing to stretch beyond the common believes about chronic illness, and get some reassurance
that this may again be TMS. TMS is a tricky sucker and as you know loves to hang out where there would logically be pain because of a former injury. BTW I still play,practice and get on with it, and I'm fine when my mind is in the music.....ummm
Much Success,
Donn
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