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ssjs
USA
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 Posted - 05/17/2005 : 08:41:02
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Just wondering...I hate to say that something like these two hormonally based situations are TMS....and maybe they might be partially TMS...but not completly, but what might you all think?
I have found some people to use these two things as an excuse for everything.
But maybe it a reason for many things...or everything...or not.
Some woman suffer so...and some women, not at all.
My sister is totally incompacitated. I try hard to relate, but I rarely notice any hormonal changes.
What do you all think?
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 05/17/2005 : 09:42:50
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Sandy,
I, too, have often asked this question. It's a tough one to answer. I think that women expect to be bitchy before their cycle and use it as excuse to do so (myself included). I also think that when we get into perimenopause and menopause years, we are feeling "all washed up" as women (we are done having babies, our bodies are betraying us by shriveling up and getting older, and we are asking ourselves "what have I done with my life?). I know this was the case with me and several other women I have talked with. When I got in my 40's, that's when my dizziness started up. I have talked to several other women who have experienced the same thing.
When I was 41, that is when my first "dizziness" episode started, while on a trip. At the time, I was worried about a lump that was possibly breast cancer. I was feeling sad because my husband didn't want any more kids (we have two daughters and I wanted to try for a son). My life was "half over" and what did I have to show for it? I didn't have some wonderful career - I never even finished college. Yes, I had two beautiful, intelligent daughters that I was proud of. I felt I did a good job with them. But my daughters weren't young anymore so they were not as needy and that was a tough pill to swallow. My second bout with the dizzy thing started a couple years later, again on a trip. In my search for answers to "why" I've been dizzy, I've read over and over about "hormones and dizziness." But I think there could definitely be a psychological role being played here. Dr. Sarno could devote an entire chapter to this in one of his upcoming books!
Laura
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ssjs
USA
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Posted - 05/17/2005 : 13:44:02
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Laura,
It hasen't been so easy for me to get older...I must admit. After I read Sarnos books and started seeing a therapist, I actually opened up a business...it's not doing great, but it is starting to improve.
There are so many things I would have done if my life had been different. I was pretty neglected. But I guess that I should use all of that energy to make my business the best it can be.
Today has been a depressing day...and for no reason I can think of. Maybe too much sugar this weekend? Most probably TMS.
I do have to work through this getting older thing though! My daughter just graduated from college!
Ahhhhhhhhh maybe that's why I am depressed!!!
Sandy
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mala
Hong Kong
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 02:36:03
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I don't think that PMS or menopause are tms. If you say they are, then you would have to say that having a period is tms too which it isn't. The fact that women have their periods, get pregnant, breast feed and then go through menopause is because of the complex system of hormones that causes changes to our bodies, real changes.
Hormones can however be influenced by emotions which can cause physical symptoms in the body too. The changes in hormones due to unhappy emotions or pyschological factors could be be tms especially when existing physical symptoms are exacerbated . In other words mild discomfort due to menopause may become worse if there is an underlying emotional element to it.
Good Luck & Good Health
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ssjs
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 05:23:05
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Mala,
That is what I meant. You said it better than I did.
Sandy |
Edited by - ssjs on 05/18/2005 05:24:04 |
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Colleen
USA
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Posted - 05/19/2005 : 09:56:25
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Hi Everyone,
I went into what is called "sudden surgical menopause" last year after my total hysterectomy. I had just lost my Mom to a gyn. cancer less that 4 months before my surgery.....but I didn't really start to grieve until after the surgery and WOW, did it come crashing in.....grief, menopause!! I cannot say that I have found "balance" yet. I have a while to go before this stuff is more settled in me....and then of course the pain im my feet began last April 2004.
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Michele
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Posted - 05/19/2005 : 15:17:52
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This is very interesting, because I seem to be dealing with alot of these "problems" lately.
Most recently I had an "attack" of what they thought was gallbladder last month, on the 24th day of my cycle. Last Tuesday, I had another attack, which was worse. I happened to think about where I was in my cycle, checked my chart and what do I see - day 24. Coincidence? Could be, but maybe not.
I'm still in the throes of this attack, had a hydascan this morning to check to see if the gallbladder is even functioning, and am awaiting results.
I KNOW I have alot of things going on in my life and I KNOW physical manifestations occur to distract me from how I'm feeling about everything. So is TMS just attacking me another way?? |
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Colleen
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 14:29:10
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Michele,
Before you suspect TMS, what does the scan say ?? I have had a lot of Gyn. problems....which is obvious since I had a total hyst. last year. Rule out the medical/physical stuff first.
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Michele
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 15:53:05
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Originally posted by Colleen
Michele,
Before you suspect TMS, what does the scan say ?? I have had a lot of Gyn. problems....which is obvious since I had a total hyst. last year. Rule out the medical/physical stuff first.
Colleen
Scan was clean, gallbladder is functioning properly. The doctor gave me a huge bag of Nexium, even though I told him I'm not having any heartburn, no acid feeling or taste. When he called to tell me the test was clear, he asked if I'd been taking the Nexium. I told him I took one, but haven't taken any since. He got mad at me!! I was so stunned I forgot to ask HIM a question: Why would you give me a drug when you don't even know what's wrong with me!!  He still wants me to have an endoscopy, but if they don't call to schedule one, I'll probably blow it off. Now if I have another attack on day 24 next month, well then, perhaps it's not a coincidence anymore. |
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mala
Hong Kong
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 21:10:22
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When he called to tell me the test was clear, he asked if I'd been taking the Nexium. I told him I took one, but haven't taken any since. He got mad at me!! I was so stunned I forgot to ask HIM a question: Why would you give me a drug when you don't even know what's wrong with me!!
Hi Michele,
Glad to hear that your scan came back clear and completely understand your frustration and anger over the Nexium business. Why don't you call up your doctor and ask him exactly why he prescribed the drug when like you said you have no heart burn. It would be very interesting to hear what he has to say.
You could then also ask him why he has suggested an endoscopy. If you find that neither of his answers are convincing then you should find some other doctor that you can trust.
I wouldn't completely rule out the endoscopy but you could always get a second opinion.
Good Luck & Good Health
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ssjs
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2005 : 06:00:32
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I suppose all of us on this forum have a mistrust of dr.s!
A few years ago, I had a wicked case of whooping cough, which I actually diagnosed myself...my doctor was like "oh wow! You are right!"
Since it has been a bit unusual...although becoming much more common now, he really had no idea,
But my point is, that he sent me to an ent (when I was almost all better)because he thought my throat was pretty torn up from the coughing (it is unlike any coughing you can imagine) and the ent said "adults never get whooping cough, what you have is ACID REFLUX"
I explained that I had tried some Soothing tea for my throat that had actually irritated it...that is what he was seeing at the moment.But he didn't believe me.
Anyway...yes it was a textbook case of whooping cough.
As for the menopause thing...I finished it at 45. With no symptoms...but now I have been getting a few warm flashes...I am 49.I wonder if I should check that out, some weird thing with my hormones, or if it is me TMSing...well I go to a dr visit in July.
It is just so easy to imagine something is wrong...when I generally feel so good, but am under alot of stress.
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Michele
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Posted - 05/24/2005 : 11:37:19
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Update: I called my doctor yesterday (Monday) and spoke with his assistant. I mentioned the connection between my cycle dates and the attacks. Within an hour, I had an ultrasound of my uterus scheduled, and an appointment with a OB/Gyn specialist. Then my mom informed me that she had her uterus removed at age 42 (kept her ovaries), my older sister had a total hyst at age 46, my youngest sister has had 3 cysts and one ovary removed, and my other two sisters are having troubles.
This is me smacking my hand against my forehead. Duh! 
But I should also report that about 98% of my hip pain has disappeared over the past 2-3 months, with only lingering stiffness (which I believe is conditioning). |
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 05/26/2005 : 08:21:12
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not going to discuss this topic, in fact you will say
"what do you know bout this kenny v ? " your a guy
well, after
Being exposed to the methodology that explained to me about TMS I have learned to think outside the box.
I have now entertained this question and have spoken to many that have been through this and who have and have not had. Lets just say medical procedures that have gone on to try to fix problems associated with menopause. And to my surprise this is another great procedure the white coats deem as being necessary and another one size fits all procedure.
Anyhow IMO personally its all about adjusting the estrogen levels and DO NOT have to be done by harmones nor any drug treatment.
The reason I have been exposed is because they have recently maid many connections with autoimmune responses with males being testosterone and females being estrogen. You will have to dig deep Bc you won’t see this in the mainstream medical community.
I am exposed into this deeper to long to explain.
Haven’t looked into this into detail Bc I am not a candidate for this > however I am a curious person and like to help others. I just heard personal testimony that’s all.
Haven’t read the book but I have just ordered don’t know what I covers but I know it is one of the type that helps you think out of the box.
Just passin FYI
HTH
Kenny V
What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About(TM): Premenopause : Balance Your Hormones and Your Life from Thirty to Fifty (What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About...(Paperback))
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0446615390/qid=1116965228/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-3425978-9442360?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Always Hope For Recovery
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 05/26/2005 : 12:54:02
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Opps I am sorry for intruding, especially when it is a sensitive subject.
You gals will think I am nuts but that is ok as long as you take the time to hear me out. Than I can have a clear conscience.
What brought you all hear is because you already think outside the box. And by now most of us have learned that all sickness can have a psychological component, but we cant say that everything IS TMS.
Correct.?
Now some of us are still stuck with the notion that experts are experts and know everything about the human body and that’s why we trust them.
And others trust no one anymore because of some bad experiences.
What I say there are some good docs out there who are versed in what I am saying but they are far and few to find. Just like information it is there, but generally out on the forefront to the general public.
My point is many of the experiences that the body goes through are natural as the body reacts to changes that take place.
So which that said I say find a good OB/Gyn specialist who also is schooled in nutrition and know how to promote the body, estrogen production, and regulate a woman’s changes as well as cycles naturally.
This I believe is the key in most of what the medical community is chasing Ignorance to what is really happening in the body. And we prescribe to the approach BC the are the so-called experts.
I will not go deeper into the subject, only offer a small warning as to the use of steroids and harmone therapies, imminoglobulin and the like. And you also must watch for animal derived products as well.
There are good docs that are aware of a natural protocols, to enhancing the bodies ability to heal it self.
My advice is to seek them first.
I see the cycle that many woman go through with this, may I say it is no different than what we all have experienced with TMS. Doctors continually treat symptoms instead of understanding the underlying condition.
I hope you may have been enlightened a little more as to make an informed choice.
Thanks for listening
Kenny V
Always Hope For Recovery
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Laura
USA
655 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 21:43:15
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Great book about premenopause. I've been using the Progesterone cream they recommend. Dr. Lee knows his stuff.
Laura
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