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Jackie
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 Posted - 04/27/2005 : 17:15:27
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I am making progress..but I still have pain. I think that the problem is step three. I seem to be having trouble applying this... Could someone give me an example of how one thinks psychologically about pain?
This forum has helped me a great deal....after reading the book I needed to talk to someone who "knew the drill" !
Thanks
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marytabby
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2005 : 17:23:00
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I'm new at this myself but I believe it means, keep the emphasis on the emotional triggers, things that could be causing you strife, instead of focusing on the physical discomfort. Try to think of all the things that could be troubling you, shift your focus off the pain and onto figuring out the things that are being repressed.
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JoeW
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Posted - 04/27/2005 : 17:28:43
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The point about thinking psychologically is that you do NOT think about the pain, or any possible physical cause for it. Instead you think about what is going on in your life and what feelings you might be repressing.
The aim is to condition yourself so that whenever you have TMS-type pain, you immediately start to analyse yourself and feelings ("think psychological"), rather than thinking about the pain, or getting frustrated because it is still there, or beginning to doubt that it is TMS. This is the hardest part.
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Baseball65
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2005 : 18:34:19
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Hi Jackie.
Lets say for example,my neck is in spasm...I just wake up with it one morning.My first instinct from years of conditioning is :"Oh my god...what did I do?"
Now...I wake up with said symptom and think "Oh my god...what am I mad about but not aware of? "..Than I make a brainstorm list of every possible thing I know that is a current stressor(Job,marriage,kids,responsibility) AND than I make a list of the things that SHOULD be bugging me that are NOT...Family that isn't around,Family that is,Money,life goals and the aforementioned common ones.
Than,since this is a covert operation,I sort of construct theories of what ShOulD be bugging me,what ought to be bugging and what is.....invariably it's something I was unaware of,or I thought was too trivial to deal with(Like "I'm too mature too let _____ bug me"
That is thinking psychological....every time I catch myself focusing on the pain,I have to consciously and forcefully turn my attention to the list of possibles...the pain usually leaves before the answer comes.
hope that helps
peace
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2005 : 18:45:26
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Jackie,
My major symptom has been dizziness. I can bring the dizziness on just by thinking about it. So, whenever I get dizzy throughout the day I think to myself "What was I just thinking about? What made me get dizzy." 99% of the time, I can trace the dizzy feeling back to a thought. Usually, these thoughts are self-defeating thoughts or negative thoughts. I then try to reinforce to myself that "See, you got dizzy because _______ was bugging you or you thought of _______."
The other night, I went to bed angry at my pre-teen daughter. I felt really guilty about being so angry at her. I woke up with a stiff neck and a massive headache. I knew exactly why. I went on this forum and I posted some thoughts and pretty soon, it all went away. Thoughts trigger responses, plain and simple. I had someone explain to me that what happens is you think of something, then the dizziness (or physical symptom of your choice) kicks in and then a neurological pathway starts to become embedded within your brain.
Just try and follow Baseball's advice and I think you'll be good. Think about what might be bothering you and also what should be bugging you. Every time I start thinking physically I have to catch myself and remind myself that there is nothing wrong with me physically. The symptoms are all emotionally based.
Good luck!
Laura
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Kristin
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Posted - 04/27/2005 : 23:23:50
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"Than,since this is a covert operation,I sort of construct theories of what ShOulD be bugging me,what ought to be bugging and what is.....invariably it's something I was unaware of,or I thought was too trivial to deal with(Like "I'm too mature too let _____ bug me"
Baseball65, this is an excellent synopsis! I love this forum. I love that people are taking responsibility for their own selves and healing! If only more people could do this. |
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miehnesor
USA
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Posted - 04/28/2005 : 21:51:41
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| Jackie- perhaps if you discuss with the group some background info we may be able to help you have a better idea the source of the repressed stuff. Finding out what the TMS is trying to prevent you from doing is the hardest part of recovery and it can take a while to figure out. Everyone is different and many TMS'ers don't need to know the purpose but simply need to dialogue on everything that might have caused them anger in the past. In my case it was absolutely crucial that I understood why I had the TMS for me to attempt to deal with it in an effective way. |
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Jackie
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Posted - 04/30/2005 : 17:04:44
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Thanks everyone
I appreciate the help. After I read the book the one missing part was being able to talk to someone that had beaten TMS. You all never fail to get me back on track !
Good Chi to all
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What does thinking psychologically mean?
