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electraglideman
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 Posted - 07/01/2004 : 20:51:47
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I have been reading this forum for the past three weeks and it has been a big help to me. Thanks everyone for sharing your problems with TMS I don't feel alone anymore. I've had back and neck problems for years and this forum has helped me more in the past three weeks (along with Dr. Sarno's books) than all the Doctors I been to see.
I read in one of Sarno's books that one of the symptoms of TMS is ringing of the ears. I've had this problem for many years. I've had it for so long that I usually only notice it when I'm alone in a quite room. If I'm thinking about it I can hear it over the sound of a loud T.V. like right now while I write this message.
Just wondering if anyone else on this forum has had this problem and did they manage to make it stop.
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 21:59:00
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Welcome Electraglideman,
I'm happy to hear that reading the forum has helped you. Knowing that your problems and pains are shared by others is a great fear reliever. Fear, hoplessness and isolation is a great magnifier of pain.
I too have had neck, hip and back problems for years and agree that reading Sarno's books has done more than any of the myriad of doc's, practioners, and snake oils that I've tried.
I would guess that the ringing in your ears is also TMS. I had a recent experience with TMS, shifting from my hip to my neck. This occured within a few hours, during a 100 mile drive up the California coast. It proved to me what a tricky S.O.B. the TMS gremlin is.
Your pain, moving around, is a good thing. It means you've got it on the run. The purpose of the pain is to distract you from repressed rage. The good news is that in order to get better you don't need to discover the cause of your rage. Just knowing that the TMS process exists is enough. Dr. Sarno cites how he was able to stop his migraine headaches, in their tracks, by thinking about what was bugging him EMOTIONALY, even if he couldn't come up with any specific rage i nducing problem. The topic of ear-ringing has come up and perhaps some board members will tell you their experiences. Good luck and welcome. |
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healing heidi
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 23:36:04
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| Right now while I am writing this message I too can hear ringing in my ears. I have had this problem for years and like you I have become used to it. It wasn't until I was reading your post that I became conscious of mine again as I have it 24/7. At night I have a sound machine and listen to ocean waves and that usually drowns out the ringing. My 19 yr. old son was actually diagnosed with tinnitus 2 yrs. ago aswell. The Dr. said it was unusual for someone of his age to get it. I was told by one specialist that eventually it will burn itself out (whatever ever that meant) but mine never has. I know that I notice mine alot more during times of stress. I have also had clicks buzzing and popping and it drives me "nuts" but I have just learned to live with it. I'm sure it is another symptom of T.M.S. but it is easier to handle than pain at least. |
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Allan
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2004 : 18:04:15
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If you recall from reading Dr. Sarno’s books, he (Dr. Sarno) had several TMS equivalents such as tinnitus (ringing in the ears), mytral valve prolaspe (heart murmur) and flashes before the eyes (like cracked ice). I have had all three and I am pleased to say that when my back pain left the TMS equivalents left at the same time.
Allan.
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Sarah Jacoba
USA
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Posted - 07/03/2004 : 00:58:59
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there is no doubt that ear issues of various kinds can be TMS (I've had, separated by a decade, hyperacusis and a persistent feeling of pressure/fullness in my ears, and both have gone away with the TMS approach. My mom had tinnnitus for years and then it just went away, which according to the standard theories of tinnitus is impossible. check tinnitus.org for some interesting TMS theory-compatible info
--Sarah
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EileenTM
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Posted - 07/03/2004 : 16:17:57
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| I have mitral valve prolapse, too. I never had any symptoms, they just told me I had it based on a physical exam. How did you know yours went away? Did you have any type of symptoms. I have tinnitus, too which comes and goes in tandem with my hip pain. I have just noticed that as those symptoms have improved, my knee is now hurting. That is new and it is not from an injury. Just TMS I guess. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/03/2004 : 19:26:52
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Originally posted by EileenTM
I have mitral valve prolapse, too. I never had any symptoms, they just told me I had it based on a physical exam. How did you know yours went away? Did you have any type of symptoms. I have tinnitus, too which comes and goes in tandem with my hip pain. I have just noticed that as those symptoms have improved, my knee is now hurting. That is new and it is not from an injury. Just TMS I guess.
Dear Eileen TM,
In regards to your "mitral valve prolapse", Sarno writes about it on p. 132 of _MBP_. He indicates that it is also a TMS equivalent. He cites a Lancet journal article linking it to the autonomic nervous system which also triggers TMS. It's similar to anxiety disorder.
My ex was diagnosed with it years ago. At the time there was a popualar TV/radio doc who talked about it constantly and popualerized it. All of a sudden everyone was coming down with it. She was also a very anxious person. She thought there was something seriously wrong with her. It blew over and she went on to become a competitve racketall player and long distance bicyclist.
I think MVP is, as Sarno indicates, a TMS equivalent, and from my limited experience a bunch of B.S. It seems the media has to have an affliction of the week to create fear and ratings.
I remember when I was very young, my Dad took me for a routine medical checkup. The doc was a cardiologist. He dx'ed a heart murmmer (don't ask a barber if you need a haircut). I was too young to understand what that meant or to do anything about it. I just remember the doc mentioning it. I've run 13 marathons and pass treadmill EKG's with flying colors. So, apparetnly the murmmer was just a "normal" harmless anomaly like bulging discs. Our bodies seem to be full of harmless barnacles. |
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Allan
USA
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Posted - 07/04/2004 : 09:11:36
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To Eileen.
I never knew that I had a heart murmur until I was 21 when I took my army physical. MVP is a condition of a heart valve. The valve does not completely close so there is a small backlash of blood which can be detected by a doctor with a stethoscope. I suppose that there are varying degrees of the backlash. Mine was very minor and it did not interfere with being active in sports, etc. I just never thought about it. Also, there were no symptoms. I started getting an annual physical 16 years ago. Every year I was told that I had a slight heart murmur. When my back pain went away in 2001 (when I was 71) so did my tinnitus. I looked forward to my next physical. I knew before he put the stethoscope on me that it would be gone. It was. Pretty good evidence that it was a TMS equivalent. |
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Allan
USA
226 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2004 : 09:15:14
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To Eileen again.
"now my knee is hurting"
It appears the pain is moving around. This is an excellent sign. It indicates that you are well on the way to a recovery. There are many posts about the pain moving around and all appear to agree that it is a very positive sign. |
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Laura
USA
655 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2004 : 23:06:48
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I too have had ringing in the ears on and off for quite some time. When I was really focused on it a few years ago, it was quite distressing. I have suffered from many TMS problems over the years; stomach problems, back problems, TMJ, tension headaches, and urinary problems and infections to name a few. My current TMS manifestation is dizziness. I'd love to find someone to talk to who also has this as their main TMS complaint. I've been to Dr. David Schechter in Beverly Hills and he is helping me. My problem started 2 1/2 years ago on a trip to Cancun. After air, boat, and jet ski travel, I began to experience a "rocking" lightheaded sensation. I was under tremendous stress at the time. I saw several doctors and no one knew what was wrong with me. I finally found something called "Mal de Debarquement" which is a rocking, dizzy, floaty thing that can happen to people after "disembarking" from a plane or boat. The weird thing was that some people hadn't even been on a plane or boat and got it and the reason I put this all together as being part of TMS was because the common link in the people (mostly women, in their 40's - what a shock) was that they were under a great deal of stress when this happened to them. Also, I noticed many of the women talked about other symptoms such as having fibromyalgia, migraine headaches, etc. In fact, they think this thing is a "migraine variant." They say there is no cure for it and it can go on and on for years. I have avoided all air and boat travel for two and a half years. With the help of Dr. Sarno's books and seeing Dr. Schechter, I hope to change that soon. I have a lot of repressed anger and rage (was sexually abused several times as a child). If anyone out there has dizziness as their TMS manifestation please contact me.
Laura
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 07:28:17
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| Hi laura-Dizziness was one of my major problems way before the backpain. I had it along with a sinus condition, so it was attributed to that . It varied from not being able to lift my head off the pillow to an annoyance that was tolerable. Often, when driving, I would totally loose my equilibrium and have to pull over. When I laid down at night, everything would go upside down. If I touched the back of my head(I never could figure this one out)I became immediately dizzy. After reading Sarno, I decided it was very common and also harmless. It left with the backpain. I get a reinactment every once in a while, but I don't pay much attention to it and it goes away. |
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 13:17:28
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Susie,
Thanks for the encouragement. My condition has been waxing and waning for these past two and a half years, another reason why I knew it was TMS. I never had it like you where you would lie in bed and not be able to turn your head like so many people with dizziness get. In the beginning, it was a constant "rocking" sort of floating on a boat feeling. Now, it is a "feeling" that washes over me several times a day, especially when I'm anxious and uptight. Sometimes just a thought can bring it on. Certain people are triggers. For example, there is a lady at my health club who has dizziness similar to mine. Yesterday I was on the treadmill and the minute I saw her it started up. I am really trying to reprogram my brain since it's been conditioned to feel this way. Anyway, I'm glad to hear there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks.
Laura
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Fox
USA
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 14:48:20
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| Yes---for tinnitus, definitely read tinnitus.org...Because of this web site and seeing a certified TRT (tinnitus retraining therapist) audiologist, my ear ringing is at this point nearly a non-issue. |
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