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fredamir

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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  19:04:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had it in both legs. It was horrible.

Unless someone falls from a horse, like a friend of mine who had scitica for a few days until inflammation subsided, it is TMS.

Fred Amir
www.rapidrecovery.net
"Live Pain-Free and Achieve Optimum Health" begins 01/16/2016

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andy64tms

USA
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Posted - 12/08/2015 :  12:12:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My views have changed slightly as I age; my sciatica (lower back pain) was my main concern that led me to TMS. The term sciatica encompasses pain for the lumbar region, an area where discs bulge laterally and sideways, as we age and with some the bones crumble and deform. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and receives thousands of signals from many regions.

In the mid 90s when MRIs became prevalent it was shown that I had 5 discs bulging. A doctor commented I needed surgery and planted a seed of despair; I had had years and years of back issues basically two kinds. Severe spasms that used to put me on the ground, they were shocking and sneaky, and ongoing aches and pains that varied throughout the day, these were dependant on daily stresses to both mind and body.

Around the year 2000, I was invited to attend a “back stretching class” at the local community center. It turned out to be an introduction to yoga. The lady giving the class turned out to be a chiropractor, the stretching helped only a little. In my pain I was not too diligent and for the most part I remember slouching on the couch horizontally. I was reading Healing Back Pain and made a recovery (see my Success 2000).

Before then I was not very active and through taking up windsurfing learned that massive amounts of exercise was really good for me. In the early days of windsurfing one has to “up haul”, pull up the water soaked mast and sail to the vertical position. It’s excruciatingly painful and puts many people off, and this is contrary of what doctors say you should do; favor the aching back, BS. The back is strong; I have proved this to myself.

I am 67-1/2, last summer I had 60 days windsurfing, paddle boarding and yoga. I am fitter than I have ever been. This summer for me was the equivalent of running marathons every day. The night time is when my muscles tighten up and caused pain, and in the past I would normally take Tylenol PM, but this year I counteracted any back pain with my favorite yoga pull. I am now weaned from PM tablets.

So where do I differ? This is my pain not yours, I believe and have proved to myself that my pain is tension. I also think I may have age related anomalies, perhaps arthritis that causes or adds to my muscle tension. So since my MRI in 1996 nearly 19 years I have understood and managed sciatica.

I also differ with the “stretching” that is considered combative to pain by many of you. With Yoga I have switched off lower sciatica pain for years, how can this be bad? If I do have arthritis or a bone issue, would not this be a prime structural spot for TMS to home in on, so what!

I somehow cannot apply “acceptance and sitting” in this situation like anxiety and stress. Does anyone think I should try?

Is all sciatica TMS? Mine was, I proved this to myself!


Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years, is almost gone.
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception

Edited by - andy64tms on 12/14/2015 08:34:02
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andy64tms

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Posted - 12/11/2015 :  11:02:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andy's Sciatica continued:

So I am clearly breaking the rules, yoga stretching to relieve my pain, insomnia etc, and have done so in the context stated above. In fact my recovery “Success 2000” when I jogged through my pain could be considered very combative. Could the difference for me be that the stretching is “recognition” and “acceptance”. It’s a very subtle point that even I cannot fathom out. Has the stretching become a ritual that works for me? I have ruminating this point, but it was Avik’s and Fred’s recent posts that is making me rethink my TMS rules.

To complicate matters I had a wonderful summer 60 days windsurfing virtually pain free, even weaning myself from Tylenol PMs. In this environment for three months of the year I am 100%, should I be greedy and want for more relief? For the rest of the year I manage, accept and my TMS conditions similar to Dexy’s recent post, where she says:

“I no longer cared whether my pain went away or not. I knew it was TMS and it was totally harmless. Once I stopped genuinely caring whether the pain stuck around or went away, it left.’”

The difference between Dexy and I is that she is a young chick of 34, and I am youngly old at 67, nearly twice her age! We both seem to love massive amounts of exercise.

This brings me to my next point of complication, which is “Age related TMS”. I have this. My body clams up after heavy exercise sessions, my body naturally aches with age. Should I question these aches as TMS?

Comments please?






Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years, is almost gone.
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception

Edited by - andy64tms on 12/11/2015 11:05:18
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