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icelikeaninja
USA
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 Posted - 11/27/2013 : 23:52:34
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Hey guys so i have not posted here in awhile.
I posted last about some prostate issues I had/have and I wanted to share a few things.
Since the beginning my pain moved around from my low back to my perennial areas, to my testicles, to my penis and all over the general pelvic region.
Sorry for being graphic but some areas down there look redder than other parts.
So after being told tms by my regular doctor I did not believe it 100 percent because the tip of my yaya was redder than usual and it just gets a little lighter or darker, heck in some lights you cant see it and in others you can.
I went to an STD specialist because I wanted to look into this more than a regular check up/bloodwork/urine etc.
I tested pos for hsv1(which is most commonly the coldsore variety but can affect down there as well) The std specialist said hsv (herpes) down there would not cause all my symptoms or basically it would just come and go and not stay constant like it has been, pain wise and red skin wise.
So in Nov he tested me for some not so known stds and some that are controversial in their harm to men. Most commonly trichomonias, mycoplasma, ureaplasma, all parasites or bacteria's that might be acquired during sex.
I tested pos for ureaplasma which has been known to cause prostate issues but is widely debated for various reasons because it can inhabit the genital tracts of even virgins.
So I was put on azithromycin for 5 days and within 12 hours after my first dose 80 percent of pain gone. The supply ended and the pain came back even during the last day of the antibiotic the pain came back.
Put on levaquin which is a strong prostate antibiotic and the pain is not as bad as before and the redness dissipates waxes and wanes.
Because I felt the meds broke the barrier of pain I asked to be treated for the parasites that might cause this as well. So I am on levaquin for 7 weeks but I am prescribed tindamax which is an antibiotic that targets parasites and not bacteria.
It was one big 2g dose which is the standard treatment for it, my pains went away 100 percent the morning after i took it. The redness was stil there but no pain, this I notice has been the case regardless of how red the areas are arent indicative of the pain. It can be really red down there and no pain and vice versa.
The pain doesnt make sense either, I feel the penial pain during the day and the prostate pains in bed. During the weekends I am 80 percent pain free but during the work week I am in pain like I never had a pain free day!
Since I posted in the summer the pain is much better, now I am going back to the tms rationale because something is up.
The patterns arent making any sense. Yes, I am a Sarno patient in the past. Yes, messed up childhood, yes, very unhappy and depressed about life even before the pains because my girlfriend who I adored left me high and dry.
Anybody have any thoughts? Both doctors my original and even the std specialist are thinking this is a mind body process, the only difference is that the std doctor is giving me meds to "treat" what I might have.
Thanks for reading.
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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njoy
Canada
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Posted - 11/28/2013 : 02:40:04
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Wow, ice, sorry to hear about your prostate. Have you met other guys with similar problems that responded to Dr. Sarno's treatment?
I'm asking because I have a friend whose entire life has been messed up by a childhood sexual abuse incident. Right now, he is having nasty prostate problems combined with heart attacks and extreme anxiety. He is seething with rage, as well. It's amazing to think that he might get some help here.
As to your situation, thanks for sharing. I first read about Dr. Sarno in 1993 and have had good results with various tms equivalents but new ones continue to show up. Lately, I've been using IFS (Internal Family Systems) to dig deeper into the psychology of my tms. I know that's not necessary for most of us but for me it is helping.
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Currently on about IFS (Internal Family Systems). More info here: http://personal-growth-programs.com/learn-about-ifs/introduction-to-internal-family-systems-therapy/
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alix
USA
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Posted - 11/28/2013 : 10:34:59
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Antibiotics do have anti inflammatory properties so they can act as pain killers even if there is no infection. Have you tried quercetin that alleviates symptoms sometimes in cases of non bacterial prostatitis? Tramadol can be very helpful also according to prostatitis sufferers.
I think non bacterial prostatitis is TMS but it doesn't mean you shouldn't look for ways to reduce your symptoms. |
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icelikeaninja
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2013 : 13:00:05
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Hey thanks for the response.
First to NJOY-I believe alot of issues in this area are from sexual abuse or repression. My dad passed away from complications of hiv/aids and he was always with a new girl all the time. So growing up I did view sex as evil and even when it came to girlfriends I would wait longer than most people to even hint at the possibility. My brother had prostate issues a few years back as well. After all the drugs and therapy he concluded it was TMS before he knew of tms and anti depressants actually helped him become pain free. I do not think he has had a twinge in years.
Alix-I did not know the abx had anti inflam property. Would abx have more anti infam properties than tylenol? Reason I am asking because tylenol never helped even with my tms pains in the past (had rib,back, and hip pains that Sarno told me was TMS was cured after seeing one of this therapists)
Heck even Dr Rashbaum thinks my issue is also TMS.
I just want to be safe you know? Cover all my bases before I dive into it. That is what helped me 8 years ago when I had the fibro pains.
It's just drugs never had this effect on making me feel much better almost instantly. I would think that if I had a serious/bad infection that the drugs would make me feel better after a few days and not a few hours? Sort of like a placebo?
All the reviews I read say the drugs make you feel better after a few days not a few hours which makes me think my mind is just finding a way to get off my repressed emotions.
I am at a different place right now even my pains are close to nil today which is awesome. But I find I cant even enjoy things without thinking about the pain or utilizing my med management.
It is a very tricky spot I am in because my relief has never been 100 percent but more like 70 or 80. Now the pains come and go, yesterday sucked but now that I realize it today is awesome!
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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alix
USA
434 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2013 : 13:55:47
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| Icelikeaninja, Levaquin or cipro penetrate the prostate so I assume that they would be help in this case more than other medication. Many prostatitis patients with no detectable infections are indeed helped by that class of antibiotics. It is sometimes directly injected in the prostate but that is quite controversial. There were some studies done about the anti inflammatory effect of some class of antibiotics 10 years ago. |
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gigalos
Netherlands
310 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2013 : 10:21:23
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Hi ice,
I feel this falls in the category 'head ache in the pelvis', which can have many symptoms down there. My neighbour, a master repressor of his emotions, has prostate issues and lower back / hip problems. Doctors couldn't find anything.
To put some credibility to this theory...
Some while ago I read a thing about 'head ache in the pelvis' that especially finish people have a high incidence of this. A couple of weeks ago I saw a documentary about Finland and the high percentage of divorces in that country. The interviewed women were all complaining that their husbands had great difficulty with expressing their emotions and opening up to their wives.
Hope it helps you,
take care |
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icelikeaninja
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2013 : 23:00:18
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Yea this book looks interesting , I knew of if but never bought it for some reason.
I took a 10 hr drive today and that's exactly what it felt like a headache down there.
Yes, I am terrible at showing emotions.
I feel so much better in general and I keep telling myself my muscles are just so tight down there causing all this pain.
Today was a good day once my unconscious accepted it.
Still alot more work to do but iam motivated but not in an insane way any more.
I was also used for sex I feel by both my ex girlfriends. The last one just constantly needed it that it was ridiculous. Iam thinking of how bad I would feel after and wonder if this coorelates
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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icelikeaninja
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2013 : 10:14:04
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As usual my pains moved to 5 different places in the course of the evening. Iam trying to not notice it because I honestly don't want to keep tracking it because I know iam giving It attention this way.
I've looked up other people who had this issue as well and they also had it move around
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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Back2-It
USA
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Posted - 01/11/2014 : 23:17:53
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Originally posted by icelikeaninja
As usual my pains moved to 5 different places in the course of the evening. Iam trying to not notice it because I honestly don't want to keep tracking it because I know iam giving It attention this way.
I've looked up other people who had this issue as well and they also had it move around
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress?
In the 90's I had this Prostatitis, with a dull ache between the scrotum and the rectum, a low grade fever and burning upon urination. This was before I understood I had an anxiety problem. Once I took a decision on a major problem that was bothering me at the time, the pain gradually faded. I never did go to a doc, but from reading I self-diagnosed. Whatever is working in your life, you must plan, decide and act. Any decision will bring relief -- physically and mentally.
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eliuri
USA
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Posted - 01/12/2014 : 04:02:30
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Hi again, Ice:
Mine moves down from lower abdomen and IBS-like symptoms down to the pelvic area along with urinary urgency and pain over the course of a day. They also move around in other ways once they get down there. Even shoots up to my head and very rapidly oscillate from genital area to my jaw. I know it sounds eerie
I do find those stretches to be helpful. I see nothing at all wrong with doing those as well as deep breathing. As long as I realize its not due to organic /structural damage, infection, etc...
Sadly, both IBS and Chronic Pelvic Pain have high incidence in those with serious child abuse experiences. I wish I could erase all those memories, but I cant...Right now I'm fantasizing some lazer beam that could search my brain and delete them. But it won't happen that way
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icelikeaninja
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2014 : 14:43:29
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Sorry to hear, I have childhood issues. I have been pain free for a week that's why I haven't been around. I feel normal again. I found that when I posted success stories I'd get pain again so not for awhile.
Thanks for the reply though. I am not going to check in here for a little while just to clear my head.
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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