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icelikeaninja
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 Posted - 08/11/2013 : 10:25:20
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Plum,
As the pain decreases the anxiety increases. As I focus less on my body my thoughts go into places they have not been in years.
When I calm the anxiety the pain increases.
Is this considered a conditioned response or a symptom imperative?
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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alangordon
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 13:24:11
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Pain and anxiety serve the same underlying purpose, so it's not surprising that you don't need one when you have the other.
Often anxiety/pain is a function of disempowerment. There's an empowerment/fear scale, with empowerment on one end and fear on the other. You can't feel empowered when you're shrouded in fear, and you can't feel fear when you're empowered.
Empowerment's a strong feeling, fear is the opposite. There's different paths to feeling empowered. Anger is one of them.
Go to the 9 minute mark of this clip:
http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/TMS_Recovery_Program#Prioritize_Yourself
Notice how as soon as John moves from fear to empowerment, his anxiety goes away.
It's not a coincidence. Working toward a general stance of empowerment is one of the ultimate ways to neutralize your symptoms.
The following clip is from my own experience, and describes a good technique for empowering yourself:
http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/TMS_Recovery_Program#Stand_Up_to_the_Inner_Bully |
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icelikeaninja
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2013 : 15:13:24
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Alan, yea that page has helped me immensely.
I watch the video every night for the past few days to reinforce my thought process.
All of these clips I see a lot of myself in. It's reassuring but also a little traumatic because I/we share a lot of traits with strangers.
I understand even more so why therapy helped and is important for me because I share a lot of these issues with everyone who called into that radio show.
Sometimes I feel as if iam so far gone that I get hopeless. But I try my best to understand these things aren't my fault and have to stop feeling as if iam a victim.
I share all the childhood abuse etc. I mean at 14 years old I had to schedule my first appointment to the dentist. My mom totally neglected me for her husband, even today she still does this.
I became so conditioned to the way she acted and finally understood that at 14 I shouldn't be schedule my very first dentist appointment. That is wrong on so many levels and I need to relive these things in order to get rid of them.
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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Singer_Artist
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 19:02:56
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Holy cow, Alan..this is great stuff..thank you!!!
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icelikeaninja
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2013 : 19:18:48
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Haha I totally did not put together that I just replied to the guy who's video I watch every night
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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Singer_Artist
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 19:49:27
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2013 : 19:53:58
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Alan, you are awesome! Wish I could have found your work years ago!!
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EileenTM
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Posted - 08/12/2013 : 09:00:18
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You know Balto has an inspiring success story where he uses the same approach. I read it and that was the turning point for me. He says for one week he will fear nothing..nothing at all.
And in that time he lived his life and his symptoms disappeared.
Wonderful stuff!
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icelikeaninja
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2013 : 16:25:59
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quote:
Originally posted by EileenTM
You know Balto has an inspiring success story where he uses the same approach. I read it and that was the turning point for me. He says for one week he will fear nothing..nothing at all.
And in that time he lived his life and his symptoms disappeared.
Wonderful stuff!
Eileen
Are you replying to me or someone else on this thread? Going to read baltos story now
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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icelikeaninja
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2013 : 17:06:29
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His approach is similar. Iam just reclaiming my life is all. One day at a time.
I am just doing the mental work as best I can
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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Not being patient with TMS
