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chickenbone

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Posted - 05/22/2013 :  12:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dgreen and Birdie - sounds like you need some serious relaxation, like me. I was able cut down again on my meds and eliminate the tiny dose of sleeping pill(probably just placebo at this point) that I had been taking on and off. Specifically how I am getting over my sleeping and anxiety issues is with a new program I am working out based on Claire Weeks, Peter Levine and Anodea Judith's books that I will share once I am sure that it has worked for me completely. Anyway, I incorporated a new meditation CD that I had heard over and over was so good, but had never tried (very few meditation CD ever helped my severe sleep anxiety). The CD is called "Journey Through The Chakras" by Colette Baron Reed. This CD actually put me to sleep, I couldn't believe it. Of course, I woke up as soon as the CD ended. Now I have incorporated it into my sleep hygiene program and I am actually not having much trouble sleeping anymore. I still have some anxiety, but it doesn't seem to last. I had my husband try it and it put him to sleep about 10 minutes into it. You might want to try this, just a thought. I find the key to solving my sleep problem is to NOT TRY to fall asleep, don't even think about falling asleep. I just do my routine as if I was not intending to go to sleep. So far, this has greatly reduced my waking anxiety too, as well as TMS symptoms.
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dgreen97

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Posted - 05/22/2013 :  19:22:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would have to agree with you.. i REALLY need to relax. i dont know about the rest of you but do you feel like "i dont feel that stressed out but i have all of these pain symptoms". i dont necessarily "feel" stressed constantly but I know i am regardless. i think its because it becomes the new normal for us. we get so used to feeling this way that it feels normal and we know nothing else so there isn't something to compare to. thats why when i talked to SteveO about daily relaxation he says it takes a while to kick in, even months, because the body changes very slowly and its so used to being in a stressed out, tense adrenaline mode.

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I find the key to solving my sleep problem is to NOT TRY to fall asleep, don't even think about falling asleep. I just do my routine as if I was not intending to go to sleep. So far, this has greatly reduced my waking anxiety too, as well as TMS symptoms.



Absolute 100% true. I had a sleeping issue 3 years ago when my brother scared me. He just became a dad and told me about how he wasn't getting sleep. THe next day I heard my stepmom's car turn on in the morning and i started freaking out that i wasn't going to get enough sleep. progressively i got worse and worse as i tried harder and harder to fall asleep, figure out why this was happening by googling, etc. when i stopped worrying about this, i started falling asleep normally again.

in my mind this is the same way you have to treat TMS pain. you have to not fight it, "float" into it like claire weekes says, and not fear it. if you fight it, fear it, dread its existence, its going to stick around. as far as the SSRIs go, last week was terrible but this week im back to my "normal pain" which in my mind is great. i might not be pain free like i want but at least it hasn't been like last week. i think it was the combination of coming off of the drug on mothers day and then the anxiety associated with coming off of the drug (the fear of withdrawaling from it, etc).

i can't stress this enough how important it is to not try with this condition. it goes against our natural instincts because we're always told "the harder you try, the better results you're going to get". with the body, it seems to be the complete opposite. the harder i try to fix myself, the worse things get.

i have another example that happened to me almost 3 years ago as well. i started getting wrist pain on the computer and i went down this same bull**** path of first searching online, reading every day about it, then i was buying new mice, then i was wearing wrist braces only while on the computer, then all the time, you get the picture. it progressively got worse the more i worried about it not getting better. then one day "poof" i stopped having the pain. what sucks is that i dont remember why i stopped having it i wish i did so i could apply the same technique to my eyes. dont get me wrong i am very grateful for the pain going away i just wish i knew how. this is something im exploring right now in my journal.


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